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  1. #1

    الصورة الرمزية SAbuhashem

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    [align=left:f6a08d3df8]The world of tuning as endless and vary upon how much u wanna to pay so let's share the informations to have a good tuned cars
    Fully charged
    Adding an aftermarket turbo to a car.

    The basic reason for forced induction (turbo or supercharger) is not to increase compression or the maximum pressure in an engine cylinder, it is to increase volumetric efficiency (the efficiency of the engine at drawing in air) although forced induction is the most effective method of upping compression.

    Put a turbo on an engine with an 10:1 compression ratio and watch it go bang!Adding a turbo to a non turbo car

    When a naturally aspirated engine suck air in, it can only draw so much in before the intake valve closes and seals the cylinder. The average N/A engine will pull in around 60% of its volume, so as a result is only 60% volume efficient. The more highly tuned an engine is the more efficient it will be. The best way to improve this is to force the air/fuel mixture into the cylinders (forced induction) thus filling them more. The average forced inducted engine runs at over 90% volumetric efficiency.

    Some examples of the result. a 2.0 N/A motor will use approx 1200-1300cc of its capacity. A turbo'd or supercharged 2.0 will use 1800-1900cc, producing more power as it is able to burn more fuel. The more boost you run, the closer you get to using 100% but for some technical reason I don't understand, apparently that's not possible. But the main benefit from increasing boost is to increase the final compression ratio and getting a better bang from the air/fuel mix in your cylinders.

    If you increase the amount of air/fuel in the cylinders, then as a result you will increase the compression, which could be too much. In order to keep the final running compression the same, the initial compression (without boost) has to be dropped to compensate. More air will enable more oxygen to be available for burning and with the addition of additional fuel the engine will release more power. Turbo charging is the best way to increase the efficiency of an engine. When adding a turbo to an engine which was not originally designed for a turbo there are some major complications to take into account.

    Detonation or knock - this is where the fuel ignites under pressure before the spark happens. This will cause a piston to move in the opposite direction if it has not reached the top dead center and will have disastrous consequences for the engine. As the intake valve will also generally be open the whole intake manifold, injectors and air filter will effectively carry the exhaust of the combustion and many components of an engine will be ruined.

    To avoid this from happening you will need to lower the compression of the engine, and or restrict the turbo to a low boost threshold. (Low compression engines plus a turbo will also avoid some of the turbo lag problems inherent in most turbo applications.) The best turbos to add to a non turbo NASP (Naturally aspirated) engine are small. To lower the compression you can go with a re bore and fit lower compression pistons, you can add a stroker kit to alter the compression ratio or you can get a larger head and thick head gasket thus increasing the cylinder size and reducing the compression ratio. You need to aim for a 7:1 compression ratio if you are adding a turbo, anything above 9:1 you will have problems. In all cases you should use the highest octane fuel that you can find as the higher the octane the more resistant the fuel is to engine knock.

    If you can reduce the boost pressure to 5-7psi (as opposed to 25-35psi), and used the higher octane fuels available (e.g. Shell Optimax) you should be able to run a turbo on a standard engine with around the 9:1 compression ratio.

    When adding a turbo you should also increase the port size, fit bigger valves and go with a larger exhaust header and system as there will be a much larger volume flowing through the engine. Fitting a boost controller will allow you to experiment on a rolling road while attached to diagnostic equipment to find the optimum boost pressure.

    Most kits contain only the necessary parts to physically get the turbo onto the engine such as an exhaust header and the necessary intake plumbing to the air filter.

    Fuelling will also need to be uprated, with a higher pressure fuel pump and larger injectors. Turbos are expensive but will add the most power for your money. You should allow about 40 hours for fitting.

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    1Turbo , 2 liters, 3 Diamonds and 4 Cylinders = 400 Hp Evo

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  2. #2

    الصورة الرمزية MMamdouh

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    تاريخ التسجيل : 23Apr2007

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    الاقامة : Downtown - Cairo, Egypt

    السيارة: Daewoo Lanos I 1999

    السيارة[2]: Daewoo Lanos II 2001

    دراجة بخارية: N/A

    الحالة : MMamdouh غير متواجد حالياً

    افتراضي Re: Tuning information sieres -

    اقتباس المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة SAbuhashem
    When a naturally aspirated engine suck air in, it can only draw so much in before the intake valve closes and seals the cylinder. The average N/A engine will pull in around 60% of its volume, so as a result is only 60% volume efficient. The more highly tuned an engine is the more efficient it will be. The best way to improve this is to force the air/fuel mixture into the cylinders (forced induction) thus filling them more. The average forced inducted engine runs at over 90% volumetric efficiency.

    Some examples of the result. a 2.0 N/A motor will use approx 1200-1300cc of its capacity. A turbo'd or supercharged 2.0 will use 1800-1900cc, producing more power as it is able to burn more fuel. The more boost you run, the closer you get to using 100% but for some technical reason I don't understand, apparently that's not possible. But the main benefit from increasing boost is to increase the final compression ratio and getting a better bang from the air/fuel mix in your cylinders.
    modern engines run at 80 % VE and you CAN go over 100%... this is why it is called FORCED induction 'cause you add more air volume to the engine so a boosted 2.0 is running the same VE of a 2.5 engine for example.

    the reason for running at VE below 100% is the nature of gases were this movement is affected by restrictions and bends in the intake/valves path so you nevwer can fill the cylinders to the full capacity... thats why their is always vacuum at the intake in N/A applications.

    forced induction cures that by forcing the air in rather than letting the engine suck it so you can fill the engine to the full and even exceed that as gasses do compress... unfortunatly this contradicts with the fact that the internal combustion engine does compress the mixture to run and hince you risk pre ignition and ditonation, this is why a high boost application should have low compression ratio pistons to accomodate the boost produced by the turbo or super charger and forged connecting rods to withstand the extra stess of the compresson as well as the extra poer produced.

    MMamdouh

    What is the difference between ignorance and apathy?...I don't know & I don't care



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  3. #3

    الصورة الرمزية SAbuhashem

    رقم العضوية : 357

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    النوع : ذكر

    الاقامة : Cairo-Nassr city

    السيارة: B

    السيارة[2]: A

    الحالة : SAbuhashem غير متواجد حالياً

    افتراضي Re: Tuning information sieres -

    اقتباس المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة MMamdouh
    اقتباس المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة SAbuhashem
    When a naturally aspirated engine suck air in, it can only draw so much in before the intake valve closes and seals the cylinder. The average N/A engine will pull in around 60% of its volume, so as a result is only 60% volume efficient. The more highly tuned an engine is the more efficient it will be. The best way to improve this is to force the air/fuel mixture into the cylinders (forced induction) thus filling them more. The average forced inducted engine runs at over 90% volumetric efficiency.

    Some examples of the result. a 2.0 N/A motor will use approx 1200-1300cc of its capacity. A turbo'd or supercharged 2.0 will use 1800-1900cc, producing more power as it is able to burn more fuel. The more boost you run, the closer you get to using 100% but for some technical reason I don't understand, apparently that's not possible. But the main benefit from increasing boost is to increase the final compression ratio and getting a better bang from the air/fuel mix in your cylinders.
    modern engines run at 80 % VE and you CAN go over 100%... this is why it is called FORCED induction 'cause you add more air volume to the engine so a boosted 2.0 is running the same VE of a 2.5 engine for example.

    the reason for running at VE below 100% is the nature of gases were this movement is affected by restrictions and bends in the intake/valves path so you nevwer can fill the cylinders to the full capacity... thats why their is always vacuum at the intake in N/A applications.

    forced induction cures that by forcing the air in rather than letting the engine suck it so you can fill the engine to the full and even exceed that as gasses do compress... unfortunatly this contradicts with the fact that the internal combustion engine does compress the mixture to run and hince you risk pre ignition and ditonation, this is why a high boost application should have low compression ratio pistons to accomodate the boost produced by the turbo or super charger and forged connecting rods to withstand the extra stess of the compresson as well as the extra poer produced.

    MMamdouh
    Nice post mmadouh but i can't find any discompatable between my post and yours
    the boost is not only depend on VE it depend on it depend on all the flued inside the engine that's why we can controle the post inside any engine
    for example in normal turboed engine u cann't get mor than 4 psi-safely-
    in sports engine like evo you car run 20 psi
    in rebuilt engines you can get uo to 40 psi safly
    and that depend on the mechanism of every part in the engine
    the fuel system-the internals -the exhaust system

    Thanks for your attention

    1Turbo , 2 liters, 3 Diamonds and 4 Cylinders = 400 Hp Evo

    سبحان الله وبحمده سبحان الله العظيم


  4. #4

    الصورة الرمزية MMamdouh

    رقم العضوية : 102

    تاريخ التسجيل : 23Apr2007

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    الاقامة : Downtown - Cairo, Egypt

    السيارة: Daewoo Lanos I 1999

    السيارة[2]: Daewoo Lanos II 2001

    دراجة بخارية: N/A

    الحالة : MMamdouh غير متواجد حالياً

    افتراضي -

    any time bro

    my point was that you can go with VE over 100% and thats when you are running a ceartain level boost... of corse you can't do that with high compression engines

    it is always great to see people with so much knowledge that are willing to share it... BTW their will be a drifting event on Friday at Rehab city... will you join in??

    MMamdouh

    What is the difference between ignorance and apathy?...I don't know & I don't care



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  5. #5

    الصورة الرمزية SAbuhashem

    رقم العضوية : 357

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    النوع : ذكر

    الاقامة : Cairo-Nassr city

    السيارة: B

    السيارة[2]: A

    الحالة : SAbuhashem غير متواجد حالياً

    افتراضي -

    hasad">

    wow that's cool man but i'm not in Egypt now i traveled to do some business and get som tuning parts to my car as well
    but who will join this event ?
    by the way i never drift my car only drag or street racing :twisted:

    1Turbo , 2 liters, 3 Diamonds and 4 Cylinders = 400 Hp Evo

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