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الأخوه الكرام:
هل في الإمكان إيجاد معلومات عن هذه السيارة في مصر, أعني قطع الغيار و أسعرها و مدى توافرها في غير التوكيل؟ أيضا أريد أن استعلم عن صيانتها؟
حييث أن لي أخ في أوروبا في بعثة دكتوراه و يمكن أن يدخلها بأسمه بدون جمارك, سوف تكلفني حوالي 120000جنيه, أنا فقط خايف تكون متطلباتها اكبرمني!
معلوماتك خاطئه تمامآ تمامآ ياأخ يوسف
الحاصل على دكتوراه من الخارج (زى حالتى من 4 سنين) له اعفاء جمركى قدره 10 الاف جنيه فقط لا غير
انا متآكد من ذلك 100% وبرجاء التحقق بفسك قبل ان يرسل السياره وتصبح فى ورطه لا حل لها
كلام Nile Heart صحيح تماماً .. الإعفاء للمبعوثين على بعثات علمية أو مهمات علمية من الخارج هي 10 ألاف جنيه فقط ، وهذا كلام مؤكد .
Dear Doctors,
Salam Alikom,
Sorry for being typing in English but this is much easier and faster for me.
I am really much appreciating your prompt response to my query, however, I am really confused, my brother in Belgium is keeping confirming me that many of his colleagues had this exemption on their personal cars (which indeed costing more than 10,000 L.E)
Actually I tried to confirm the subject exemption through the Egyptian Gov. E-Site; http://www.customs.gov.eg/S_MainFree?type=fn&id=813
Vide what I read; I understood that Dr. is allowed to import his personal Vehicle + Stuff up to (10,000 L.E) + P.C & Printer.
However, he is not allowed to sell any of such properties up to 5 years from the date of exemption.
Please correct me if I am wrong (bearing in mind I am obsessed to this Kompressor 180, I believe I will take the risk by anyhow:)
Gazakom Allah Kol Kher.
بغض النظر عن الامور الجمركية والقانونية فانا منصحكش تجيب العربية دى لان قطع غيارها غالية جدا كعادة المرسيدس وبالذات الموديلات الحديثة , فعلا غالية جدا وغير متوافرة فى اسواق الاستيراد الا فيما ندر والتوكيل بتاعها دبح طبعا ويكفينى اقولك واحد قريبى عنده E موديل 2007 وتكاليف صيانة ال 5000 كانت حوالى 4600 جنيه.
العربيا قطعا ممتازة بس انت مش هتقدر تبيعها لان عليها حظر 5 سنوات.
يا سيدى الفاضل انا قلتلك والكلام ده انا مسئول عنه!
الحد الأقصى للآعفاء هو 10 الف جنيه(وده من الجمرك وليس من ثمن الشىء الأصلى)
انا مثلا جبت عربيتى بهذه الطريق وكان ثمنها من الشركه قبل الجمارك 10,500 دولار والجمارك فى جمرك اسكندريه تم حسابها بأجمالى 35 الف جنيه وانا دفعت 25 الف فقط بعد الأعفاء
(هذه اسعار اول يناير 2002)
اذا لسه مش مصدقنى اذهب بنفسك الى ادارة الأعفاءات الخاصه بشارع الطيران قبل نفق صلاح سالم مباشرة وقابل مديرة الأداره واسألها (يارب تكون لسه هناك لأنها انسانه رائعه بكل المقاييس)
وتاكد بنفسك
Gazakom Allah Khiran Ya Fandem,
Indeed I believe you, thanks a million for the advice.
Tayeb, if I may, I have a vehicle budget of about 120-130K L.E.
I am aiming for lifetime car, means I am not in that mood of every now and then change, what do u recommend me then?
What is in my mind is either and Octavia brand new, or BMW 318I or 316I (2002-2004) used of course.
Which is the one to go for?
Thanking you in advance.
ممكن حضرتك تقولنا الأول ايه اللى حضرتك طالبه من العربية عشان نقدر نحدد معاك أكتر حاجة مناسبة؟ لأن السعر اللى حضرتك كاتبه فيه موديلات كتير تنفع ... الأوكتافيا عربية حلوة لكن مش حتديلك high performace زى البى ام خالص لأنها عربية تقيلة ... ممكن تفكر فى كورولا 1600 ... عربية راقية و معمرة جداً و أداء هايل و تكلفة صيانتها أكيد أقل من البى ام خاصةً انها حتكون زيرو
Actually the current vehicle I drive is a Toyota one, it is a company vehicle, and yes I admit it is a nice car.
However, when it comes to vehicle of your own then I would not consider the Toyota, either for shape or performance (shape of course is a matter of taste).
You know this charming shape of BMW which is always chasing you in a dream car :) along of the amazing performance of course, especially I know it is a long life car.
Just what worries me from the BM is the spare parts and the maintenance costs, some r telling me it is even more than the Mercedes!
So if we talk about my priorties then u can say:
1- Long life
2- Performance
3- Shape
4- easy maintenance and spares.
Sorry for being so questioning, just I been out of Egypt for 4 about four years now, and my only inhome experience car was an Ibiza one.
Thank you
Dear Sir ,
My friends drives an Octavia A5 ELEGANCE , which is the Highest trim Level available in the Octavia line .
to your Priorities :
Long life , it has one of the best waranty systems in Egypt , 3 years for spare parts / 7 years for Gearbox and Powertrain and 11 Years for The Chasis .
it's been with him for about a Year now , no Complains whatsoever , except that once the CD changed refused to eject the CD , which I think is a very very Minor issue .
Performance is adaquete , its not a sports car after all , its heart is a PURE VW engine , And if you don't know SKODA is part of the VW Group , thus the OCTAVIA is built on the same VW PASSAT platform, You can even spot some similarites between them .
Back to performance , the Car is heavy , but IT has no problem s reacing speeds of 200km/h and believe me It does so in a very SILENT and satisfying way , when ur inside the cabin , everything out is Totally silenced .
Shape , I personaly like it , classic , elegant with a few modern lines .
Maintenance and Spares , Well almost all cars within this price range have a rather high priced spare parts but then again SKODA is dozen times cheaper than a Mercedes or a BMW .
If you like it already , I Suggest you go ahead and buy one , but mind you , the ELEGANCE model I was talking about , I think reaches 160,000 LE .
the other ones will be cheaper , with only a few equipment / features left out .
Elegance features as I remmember them ( EPS - ABS - 4 Airbags - Steptronic Gearbox - 6 CD Changer - 12 Speakers - Heated / Cooled Seats - Electronic Seats adjustment - Computer Car - Cruise Control and Xenon Lights ) .
And a general advice in Egypt ,If you have the money , Buy a new car , Used cars are overpriced , overused if not totally missused .
Rabena Yewafa2 7adretak
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مش لاقي كلام اقوله من جمال الردود
بس متنسوش يا جماعه الباسات و ايرو
Dear All,
Salam 3alikom,
Really the site is a Pool of Pros.! Mashallah
Mr. Cryptonx, your overview of the Octavia is really very concise and to the point, just do u think the A4 would be in the same level of performance and durability of the A5?
I mean, many pepl told me that no significant difference between both other than the price, especially for someone not in to much of luxury.
Also, I would refer to Mr. Oskar quote about the Passat, what do u all think about it, we r talking here about same range of price i.e. 125k, used Passat (2003-2004), what will be it is location in the comparison especially in the spare parts and the maintenance.
Really I am glad to be in the middle of this discussion.
Thank you all
M. Youssef
I am glad I could be of use Sir ,
The A4 is pretty much the same as the A5 , minus the looks and the luxury features . its just a pure rigid solid and reliable classic car , but which brings me to a point , If you didn't like the Toyota ( Corolla I presume ) I dont think the A4 will be with any diffrence , Especialy knowing that its shape and performance ( shape part is personal I know ) is below the Corolla .
The Corolla on the other side , if you put the Shape aside ,is a car that Can live for you for the next 30 years without ever asking except for the Usual mantianenace and spare parts .
My dad used to drive an Automatic 1994 Corolla , We sold it in 2004 without even chaning the shock absorbers or any thing else for 10 years it didnt complain :D .
back to the looks/reliability , I'd rather drive a Japanese car over the A4 . I was recommending the A5 because despite being non japanese , it does really belong to luxury cars not the usual practical Japanese .
VW in Egypt are murder .. spare parts are super duper expensive , even for thier cheapest offering ( Pointer ) however the aftermarket has lotsa stuff for it .
I didn't hear anyone complain about Mazdas 3 as well , it looks fine , handles superfine and speeeds like it should .
Again I recommend going for a new car , especialy If you want it to last for sometime without changing again .
Just a small correction.
The A4 is based on the Golf 4/Bora Platform.
The A5 is based on the Golf5/Jetta Platform, which is far better than the Golf 4 one regarding stability.
The A4 and A5 only use the same engine, but even the gearboxes are different.
I heared people copmplaining about the A4s Automatic (just heared).
I owned a A4 for 6 years driving a little over 100'000Km and didn't have any problems with it except some minor things.
And durability is very good too. I didn't change any shocks or the like. Even the Spark plugs were the original till I sold it
Very nice car regarding stability, rigidity and durability
Most of its parts have the VW logo on, so it's is practicaly a Czech assembled VW with cheaper service costs
Tayeb just a little question mark,
If we r talking about same spare parts range - Octavia & VW I mean, then why not to go for VW, particularly Passat one?
In other words, buying VW means buying a name, a brand and a real make (made in Germany).
With all due respect to any zero car, just if and only if, we get a chance to choose between a trustable used Passat 2003-2004 and new Octavia A4, how would we trade-off this situation:)?
Let's consider it a brainstorming quiz, bear in mind, the answer will cost u a 125K :wink:
Owning a VW doesn't make it better than a SKODA , even if a SKODA is built upon the VW platform
PROOF ?
This is quoted from Wikipedia
I know it feels better to be in a VW , or even in an Audi , but in the end , they are all the same cars , same engines , ( especialy in Egypt ) , the only thing that's gonna matter at the end , is the shape / price .اقتباس:
The German automobile TV show Auto Motor und Sport compared the Škoda Octavia with its cousin, the Volkswagen Golf Mark V and concluded that the Škoda Octavia was slightly better than the Volkswagen Golf owing to a little more interior space and other specific ergonomics, better build quality, better driveability and a lower price.
Along with other Škodas, the Czech-built Octavia has been a markedly reliable vehicle, more so than the Audi A3 and Volkswagen Golf with which it shares platforms. In 2006 Warranty Direct, a UK-based provider of mechanical warranties for used cars, rated Škoda the top manufacturer (above Mazda and Honda), while Audi came seventh from bottom. The Octavia specifically had a reliability index of 32.74 (lower being more reliable) while the Golf produced over the same period was 87.28 and the Audi A3 99.43.
I say , If you can swoop the lowest priced one , with the biggest features ... you've won . ( asuming we are beyond the reliablilty part )
now back to your question ,
If the Passat was in Perfect shape , I would personaly go for it .
If it even had a slight bump or a stupid mechanical problem , I would dump it , for An A4 or for anything else .
H_hezzah , Thanks for the correction, I knew so , But I didn't want to include more platform specific details .
Dear Sirs,
Salam Alikom,
I believe recommendations go all to the brand new Octavia or (in case if exists – used 2003 Passat in an outstanding condition).
Though, for information only, could I get an idea about the price range of a specific spare part - let us say the headlight - of the following vehicles, which may give me a guide about what would I face after buy:
- Mercedes C180 year 2002-2003.
- BMW 318 year 2002-2003
- Passat year 2002-2003.
- Octavia 2007
Is such a comparison could give a sustainable after-sell indication for each vehicle