http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/e...ortrait-BW.jpg 1935 – Inventor
Henry Garrett patented a electrolytic carburetor and let a car run on tap water.
The late Henry “Dad” Garrett was a multi-talented Dallas inventor with a bent for electrical contrivances, and in 1935, he and his son, C.H. Garrett, patented and exhibited an automobile that ran on water — actually, on hydrogen after the water was broken down by electrolysis.
Dad Garrett was already famous for his work. In 1920 he set up WRR in Dallas, the world’s first municipal radio station, and was its first announcer. He was the first man to build a radio in his car, and he developed radio transmission from the car for police use. He also invented an automatic electric traffic signal, possibly the nation’s first.
http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/e...-engine-ss.jpg On September 8, 1935, The Dallas Morning News first announced that the water-fuel concept worked — at least it worked for “several minutes,” the article reported. A few months later, Pathe’ News filmed the car driving along Garland Road with the driver stopping at White Rock Lake to fill the fuel tank with water before cruising off.
I personally built one of those hydrogen generators and installed it on my 1986 Buik SkyHawk. The car would only achieve 20 MPG before I installed the unit. After running the generator for only a week, and checking the fuel economy it now was 58 MPG. After running the unit for 1 year I was able to attain an average of 60 MPG with a top of 75.62 MPG. The Spark plugs were not changed and when removed were as clean as the day they were installed 3 years before.
One side effect was the increase in power that the engine had. A hill that I would have to drive up every time I went to the city would always slow the car down before, but after the hydrogen generator was installed the car would even accelerate going up the same hill. The reason for this could have been the hydrogen or a cleaner engine or a combination of both. Why I experencied this who knows and I really do not care about the techenical reason the only thing I know is that it worked.
I am not an engineer and have no idea why this worked and honestly do not care, I just know that there was a big increase in my cars fuel economy.
Winter up north in Canada also started as a bit of a problem with -40 degree weather but this was easily fixed by changing the electrolyte solution.
Gary K.
April 08 2014
electrical pulses, not brute force electrolysis
Where normal water electrolysis requires the passage of current measured in amps (10 or 20 where your battery produces over 400 and your alternator provides 50 amps or more – so miliamps is nice but it may not be worth the hassle), this cell achieves the same effect in milliamps. Furthermore, ordinary tap water [may] requires the addition of an electrolyte such as sulphuric acid Baking Soda to aid current conduction with the standard electrolysis approach; these cells function at greatest efficiency with plain tap water.
According to the witnesses, the most startling aspect of the Meyer cell was that it remained cold, even after hours of gas production.
Meyer’s experiments, which he seems to be able to perform to order, have earned him a series of US patents granted under Section 101. The granting of a patent under this section is dependent on a successful demonstration of the invention to a Patent Review Board.
Meyer’s cell seems to have many of the attributes of an electrolytic cell except that it functions at high voltage, low current rather than the other way around. Construction is unremarkable. The electrodes — referred to as “excitors” by Meyer — are made from parallel http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/e...or-washers.jpg plates of stainless steel placed in either flat or concentric arrangements. (see the washers, on the right, for one method) Gas production seems to vary as the inverse of the distance between them; the patents suggest a spacing of 1.5 mm produces satisfactory results.
A witness team of independent UK scientifc observers testified that US inventor Stanley Meyer successfully decomposed ordinary tap water into constituent elements through a combination of high, pulsed voltage using an average current measured only in milliamps. Reported gas evolution was enough to sustain a hydrogen / oxygen flame which instantly melted steel. (How Denny Klein got started – see video)
“We did notice that the water at the top of the cell slowly became discolored with a pale cream and dark brown precipitate, almost certainly the effects of the chlorine in the heavily chlorinated tap water…” … “We clearly saw how increasing and decreasing the voltage is used to control gas production. We saw how gas generation ceased and then began again instantly as the voltage driving circuit was switched off and then on again.”
The use of a high voltage spike alone (1500 volts+), without the current being delivered through the liquid, will not cause the disassociation to take place. Once Stan’s unit was made to begin breakdown (which takes 6 to 8 seconds) he was able to reduce both current and voltage to miniscule proportions.
There are two primary frequencies that produce the best results. They are: 14,372 Hz and 43,430 Hz. The former is about 50% more efficient, but it seems that just about any frequency between 9 KHz and 143,762 KHz works quite well. This is because the nature of the wave form ( a spike ) is rich in harmonics and one of them is bound to be close to one of the two primary frequencies.
Meyer was apparently eating dinner at a Grove City, OHIO restaurant, when it is reported that he jumped up from the table, yelled that he’d been poisoned”, and rushed out into the parking lot, where he collapsed and died. Thieves came a week later and stole the the dune buggy and all of his experimental equipment, according to his twin brother, Stephen. Stan said while he was alive, that he was threatened many times and would not sell out to Arab Oil Corp’s. The Military was going to use this technology in their tanks, jeeps, etc. He had patents on his invention and was ready for production. See the Videos above. No gasoline, just water. Stanley said he was offered a billion dollars from an Arab to basically shelf his idea. Stan said, “No”. |
OVERVIEW – Here is the suggested sequence of steps:
1. Build 2 or 3 electrodes and test their output in your bottle of water.
2. Temporarily insert the hydrogen and oxygen output tube into your engines air intake hose to verify the output with the different electrodes. Choose the smallest one that works.
3. Install-connect the bottle(s), limiter, and valves-fittings.
4. Run engine and adjust the accelerator-battery circuit as necessary for best performance.
6. Dump the now pointless catalytic converter and, if your exaust pipe is
not stainless steel already, later, replace it with stainless steel pipe sections.
PARTS LIST
plastic water bottle(s) with electrode and fittings.
battery-limiter, wiring, connectors, and epoxy.
1.5 inch flex-tubing, fittings and clamps.
pvc valves and fittings.
BASIC TOOLS
drill, screwdriver and pliers
wire-wrap, solder-iron and clippers
Diesel
“could save you more than 20% on Diesel fuel”, not great, but they got it to work:
with diesel fumes, do it with a bottle and some hose – save over 200%
another source:
“Our customers report 10-35% increase in diesel mileage”
http://www.hydrogen-generators-usa.c...generator.html Diagrams
Figure 1
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Till you are ready, forget the ignition and mount your own switch.
Figure 2
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Figure 3
This experimenter goes to 30 amp. Still small enough but maybe overkill.
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Figure 4
use 1 inch hoses and keep the pressure down
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It is suggested you try this out to begin with on a second vehicle you own, one that you don’t need to live with everyday, until you perfect this technology.
This young man (Vox) mixed a little hydrogen in
with the gas as an experiment on his motorcycle.
On a 45 km trip his motorbike used 2 liters of gas (no HHO). For the return (45 km) trip, he activated his HHO supplement system and then in this video, discovered that his motorcycle had only used a little over half (the 2 liter bottle) of what it consumed before.
motorcycle working with 100% water.HHO
In putting these plans into operation, you will be making use of your entire existing system except for the fuel tank and the catalytic converter.
take a look at this video generating hydrogen gas with a small amp.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvdPLJW06pw a collection of youtube videos on pulse width modulators The Plan Build and install a low-cost alternative method for running your vehicle (internal combustion engine) on tap water, using off-the-shelf components.
This is supposed to be an efficient way to convert ordinary tap water into gaseous hydrogen and oxygen, and then burn these vapors in the engine, instead of gasoline.
This “minisystem” runs easily from your existing battery and electrical system, and it plugs into your air intake (manifold) with simple off-the-shelf fittings.
You will be installing a plastic water bottle, a fuse, a few metal plates.
The simplicity comes from its being an “on-demand” system requiring no hi pressure storage tanks or plumbing. You crank the gas pedal or throttle, and you electrically create more vapor for immediate consumption, on demand; low-high flow rate as needed, from idle to maximum power. The change is that you are using tap water as fuel, – a lot less (if any) of the traditional petroleum-based fuel.
H
2O –> H
2 + O
2 Frequently Asked Questions Q: How does it qualify as “free energy”?
A: If you’re paying someone for the water you use, then it is not strictly free. But it’s close enough.
Q: Is it safe?
A: It is safer than running on fossil fuel. You are no longer choking on your own emissions (health-wise). You are also no longer funding global terrorism. You are no longer running the extreme risk of a gasoline fire or explosion! Additionally, you will be installing a few simple safety devices, using current automotive standards.
To put it another way, Hydrogen is just as explosive as Gasoline but you are creating only small amounts of fumes, not tanks full of it like gasoline, and nothing that is left over, does
any harm to the environment: When hydrogen ‘burns’ it becomes pure water.
H
2 + O
2 –> H
2O
Q: What kind of performance can I expect?
A: Properly adjusted, your modified vapor-only fuel system will run cooler, and at a modestly higher power level. The mileage performance expected from this design ranges from 50-300 mpg (of water), depending on your adjusting skills and anywhere from 50% to
no gasoline.
Q: Can I do the modification myself?
A: Why not? Can you drill 2 holes in a few small, thin, sheets of metal? run 2 wires from your car battery to your bottle with the electrodes in it . . . etc.?
Vid21 Washer Cell Hydrogen Generator (HHO, Brown’s Gas, Hydroxy)
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I have a cell we made here with the plates spaced at 6 thousands of an inch and it blasts Hydrogen out of it like a volcano. A problem with this close of spacing is shorting out the plates and warping of the plates.
1/32 of an inch .0312 is what TLG Hydrogen is using on our dry cells. [.8 mm] This gap works great
tlghydrogen.com You know that motorcycles use 6 or 12 volt batteries, and that is recognized here. Higher voltages require greater gaps.
So what does this have to do with cell spacing? Well consider the distance between your plates. If water is an insulator, then the more water you have between two plates, the higher the resistance will be between the plates. If you know anything about Ohms Law, an increase in Resistance causes electron flow to be reduced.
Electron flow is the amperage your cell is drawing. The farther apart your plates are, the less amps your cell will draw through the water. The closer the plates are, the more amperage your cell will draw. Amperage plays a big part in HHO production.
and the higher the voltage, the greater the electron flow.
Without it, your cell will produce squat; nothing.
If we add Electrolytes to the water, we will make the water conduct better by decreasing the Resistance between the plates. A decrease in resistance allows more current to flow; thus increasing the possibility of producing more HHO. A cell that has wide spacing can be made to produce just as much HHO as a cell with close spacing. The difference is going to be the amount of electrolytes added to the water. The cell with wide spacing will need larger amounts of electrolytes.
There is another factor to consider —– Heat. Cold water has more resistance than Hot water.
The hotter your water gets, the better it will conduct electricity. How many times have you been told that Electrolysis causes heat? Pay attention. The better water conducts electricity, the more amperage your cell is going to draw. Amperage is the movement of electrons. Movement is friction. Friction causes heat. So the more amperage you draw, the hotter your water is going to get.
The hotter the water gets, the more amperage it draws; which in turn creates more heat, which causes more current, which causes more heat.
Do you get the idea that amperage/heat needs to be controlled? You bet it does. If you don’t control it, it will run away from you.
Eventually blowing a fuse or tripping your cells circuit.
We have learned that a Pulse Width Modulator will help us with that problem.
As for plate spacing, we use 0.060 inches, or about 1.5 millimeters. That is about as close as possible and still get good bubble flow.
Closer spacing needs less electrolyte. It does not produce more gas or less gas; per say. Gas production is caused by amperage.
http://danieldonatelli.wix.com/hho-p...-spacing/c1nos Remember This
There are a few things you should remember about gasoline:
Gasoline poisons the atmosphere and, it is very
toxic and dangerous
! Gasoline versus Water
Most people are unaware that “internal combustion” is defined as “a thermo-vapor process” – as in “no liquid in the reaction.” Most of the gasoline in a standard internal combustion engine is actually consumed, (cooked, and finally, broken down) in the catalytic converter after the fuel has been not-so-burnt in the engine. Sadly, this means that most of the fuel we use in this way is used only to cool down the combustion process, a pollution-ridden and inefficient means of doing that. Lots of very explosive and flammable gasoline vs. a very small amount of hydrogen vapor.
How It Works
Water is added as needed to replenish and maintain the liquid level in the chamber. Electrolysis breaks 2(H
2O) => 2H
2 + O
2. When the pressure reaches say 3-5 psi (with a 1.5 inch diam. hose), you turn the key and go. You step on the pedal, you send more energy to the electrodes, and thus more vapor to the cylinders; i.e. fuel vapor on demand.
You set the idle max-flow rate to get the most efficient use of power, and you’re off to the races.
In the big picture, your energy is coming from the tap water in an open system, as the latent energy in the water is enough to power the engine and hence drive the alternator and whatever belt-driven accessories. And the alternator is efficient enough to run the various electrical loads (10 – 20 amps), including the additional low current to run this vapor reaction. No extra batteries are required.
the Stanley Meyer generator
the radio frequency = 20,000 cps
The Orion Project is trying to buy his equipment and recreate Stan’s success
there are many youtube videos on several inventors who have succeeded:
Daniel Dingel, from the Philippines
Read about and see Fox News broadcast from youtube (welding torch + car fuel):
Denny Klein’s hydrogen generator and hydrogen torch – in Clearwater, Florida
read the article and patent on the
Pacheco Generator
This guy is mixing a little hydrogen in with the gas
I personally built one of those hydrogen generators and installed it on my 1986 Buik SkyHawk. The car would only achieve 20 MPG before I installed the unit. After running the generator for only a week, and checking the fuel economy it now was 58 MPG. After running the unit for 1 year I was able to attain an average of 60 MPG with a top of 75.62 MPG. The Spark plugs were not changed and when removed were as clean as the day they were installed 3 years before.
One side effect was the increase in power that the engine had. A hill that I would have to drive up every time I went to the city would always slow the car down before, but after the hydrogen generator was installed the car would even accelerate going up the same hill. The reason for this could have been the hydrogen or a cleaner engine or a combination of both. Why I experencied this who knows and I really do not care about the techenical reason the only thing I know is that it worked.
I am not an engineer and have no idea why this worked and honestly do not care, I just know that there was a big increase in my cars fuel economy.
Winter up north in Canada also started as a bit of a problem with -40 degree weather but this was easily fixed by changing the electrolyte solution.
Gary K.
April 08 2014
electrical pulses, not brute force electrolysis
Where normal water electrolysis requires the passage of current measured in amps (10 or 20 where your battery produces over 400 and your alternator provides 50 amps or more – so miliamps is nice but it may not be worth the hassle), this cell achieves the same effect in milliamps. Furthermore, ordinary tap water [may] requires the addition of an electrolyte such as sulphuric acid Baking Soda to aid current conduction with the standard electrolysis approach; these cells function at greatest efficiency with plain tap water.
According to the witnesses, the most startling aspect of the Meyer cell was that it remained cold, even after hours of gas production.
Meyer’s experiments, which he seems to be able to perform to order, have earned him a series of US patents granted under Section 101. The granting of a patent under this section is dependent on a successful demonstration of the invention to a Patent Review Board.
Meyer’s cell seems to have many of the attributes of an electrolytic cell except that it functions at high voltage, low current rather than the other way around. Construction is unremarkable. The electrodes — referred to as “excitors” by Meyer — are made from parallel plates of stainless steel placed in either flat or concentric arrangements. (see the washers, on the right, for one method) Gas production seems to vary as the inverse of the distance between them; the patents suggest a spacing of 1.5 mm produces satisfactory results.
A witness team of independent UK scientifc observers testified that US inventor Stanley Meyer successfully decomposed ordinary tap water into constituent elements through a combination of high, pulsed voltage using an average current measured only in milliamps. Reported gas evolution was enough to sustain a hydrogen / oxygen flame which instantly melted steel. (How Denny Klein got started – see video)
“We did notice that the water at the top of the cell slowly became discolored with a pale cream and dark brown precipitate, almost certainly the effects of the chlorine in the heavily chlorinated tap water…” … “We clearly saw how increasing and decreasing the voltage is used to control gas production. We saw how gas generation ceased and then began again instantly as the voltage driving circuit was switched off and then on again.”
The use of a high voltage spike alone (1500 volts+), without the current being delivered through the liquid, will not cause the disassociation to take place. Once Stan’s unit was made to begin breakdown (which takes 6 to 8 seconds) he was able to reduce both current and voltage to miniscule proportions.
There are two primary frequencies that produce the best results. They are: 14,372 Hz and 43,430 Hz. The former is about 50% more efficient, but it seems that just about any frequency between 9 KHz and 143,762 KHz works quite well. This is because the nature of the wave form ( a spike ) is rich in harmonics and one of them is bound to be close to one of the two primary frequencies.
Meyer was apparently eating dinner at a Grove City, OHIO restaurant, when it is reported that he jumped up from the table, yelled that he’d been poisoned”, and rushed out into the parking lot, where he collapsed and died. Thieves came a week later and stole the the dune buggy and all of his experimental equipment, according to his twin brother, Stephen. Stan said while he was alive, that he was threatened many times and would not sell out to Arab Oil Corp’s. The Military was going to use this technology in their tanks, jeeps, etc. He had patents on his invention and was ready for production. See the Videos above. No gasoline, just water. Stanley said he was offered a billion dollars from an Arab to basically shelf his idea. Stan said, “No”. |
OVERVIEW – Here is the suggested sequence of steps:
1. Build 2 or 3 electrodes and test their output in your bottle of water.
2. Temporarily insert the hydrogen and oxygen output tube into your engines air intake hose to verify the output with the different electrodes. Choose the smallest one that works.
3. Install-connect the bottle(s), limiter, and valves-fittings.
4. Run engine and adjust the accelerator-battery circuit as necessary for best performance.
6. Dump the now pointless catalytic converter and, if your exaust pipe is
not stainless steel already, later, replace it with stainless steel pipe sections.
PARTS LIST
plastic water bottle(s) with electrode and fittings.
battery-limiter, wiring, connectors, and epoxy.
1.5 inch flex-tubing, fittings and clamps.
pvc valves and fittings.
BASIC TOOLS
drill, screwdriver and pliers
wire-wrap, solder-iron and clippers
REACTION CHAMBER
Select bottles as shown in the diagrams. Make sure to drill-and-epoxy or tap threads thru the PVC components for all fittings. Set and control the water level in the chamber so that it well submerses the electrodes; yet leave some headroom to build up the hydrogen/oxygen vapor pressure. Use stainless steel wires inside the bottle or otherwise use a protective coating; use insulated wires outside. Ensure that the epoxy perfects the seal, or otherwise lay down a bead of water-proof silicone that can hold pressure.
The screw fitting may require soft silicone sealant, or a gasket; its purpose is to hold pressure
http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/e...loat-valve.jpg and allow periodic inspection of the electrodes. No leaks, no problems. Make sure you get a symmetric 1-5 mm gap between the stainless steel plates. The referenced literature suggests that the closer to 1 or 2 mm you get, the better. You will want to test your system before you epoxy the cap on.
Make your solder connections at the wire/electrode junctions nice, smooth, and solid; then apply a water-proof coating, e.g. the epoxy you use for joining the pipes to the screw cap. This epoxy must be waterproof and be capable of holding metal to plastic under pressure. You will want to test your float valve before you epoxy the cap on.
Throttle Control
We should be able to connect the accelerator cable to a rheostat (variable resistor) to the gas linkage (i.e. coupled to something at the throttle cable running to the carb or FI. If you make the attachment at the carb/FI, be sure to use a rheostat that can handle the engine temp cycles. Don’t go cheezy-cheapy, get one rated for long life and mechanical wear; mount it securely to something sturdy and stationary that will not fall apart when you step on the gas.
Control Range. The full throttle RANGE (idle-max) MUST control the vapor rate (duty). The resistor values at the throttle signal must allow the throttle signal voltage, say 1-4 Volt swing, to drive the VAPOR RATE. You will be using this voltage range to control speed and acceleration.
In this circuit, you will simply adjust to whatever voltage makes the most efficient vapor conversion.
You crank up the throttle and put more electrical energy into the electrodes; verify you can get everything you wanted.
potentiometers (POTs) have been mentioned: “Potentiometers and rheostats are made the same way, but rheostats are usually much sturdier, as they are generally used in high-power situations.”
ENGINE/EXHAUST TREATMENT
You could make max use of your current exhaust system by using it with your new deal until it rusts through, then have your mechanic or welder friend to fit a stainless steel exhaust pipe (no catalytic converter is required). But it could be easier and cheaper to send your existing exhaust system out for the ceramic treatment, and then simply re-attach it to the exhaust ports.
GENERAL
1. Do not discard or remove any of the old gasoline setup components, e.g. tank, fuel injectors, catalytic converter, unless necessary. Better to always leave an easy way to revert back to something that at least runs, just in case. Some people are leaving their gasoline setup completely intact, and switching back and forth at will, just to have a backup plan.
2. Set your throttle circuit so that you get minimum vapor flow at idle, and maximum vapor flow at full power without blowing the pressure relief valve. In this way, you control how ‘lean’ your mixture is by the strength of the voltage-amperage.
3. If you just don’t get enough power (at any throttle setting), it means that you need to (1) change the gap between the electrodes, (3) change the size (bigger) electrodes, or (4) use a higher amp fuse (last resort). Always use an output transistor, such as a MOSFET, that is rated for the voltage and current you need to get the job done. OK so you might have to play around with it some. Isn’t that where all the Fun is anyhow?
4. Build the canister(s) as tall as you can without compromising your ability to mount them conveniently in the engine compartment. This way, you can always make the electrodes bigger, if necessary without undue hardship (even do without the bubbler). Remember that anything in the engine compartment should be mounted in a bullet-proof, vibration and temperature tolerant fashion.
5. If you have to drill a thru-hole for wiring or plumbing thru metal, make sure to also install a grommet for protection against chafing. Always watch your chamber pressure range from IDLE (15-25 psi) – FULL POWER (30-60 psi). Set your safety-pressure relief-valve to 75 psi and make sure it’s rated higher.
6. Shut OFF the power switch and pull over if there is any malfunction of the system. Your engine will last longest when it still develops FULL POWER + at some minimum temperature that we are sure you can find, by leaning back the Vapor Flow and/or by making use of the water-vapor cooling technique. Keep good mpg performance records, and periodic maintenance/inspection. Keep it clean; save some money; clean the air; heal the planet; happy motoring; tell a friend; enjoy your freedom and self-empowerment.
7. If you install the water-vapor system (for lower operating temp/stress), you will want to lean the mixture (vapor/air) for minimum vapor flow rate to achieve any given throttle position (idle – max). Make sure that you get a minimum flow for IDLE and a good sufficient flow for MAX.
8. If you are concerned about the water freezing in your system, you can (a) add some 98% isopropyl alcohol and re-adjust the rheostat accordingly; or (b) install some electric heating coils.
HHOi under pressure into fuel rail may be the key to running vehicles on water and air
The onboard electrolysis unit, powered by the vehicle’s battery/alternator, produces an ionized hydroxy gas [HHOi] (the hydrogen and oxygen are not separated) that is injected under pressure (30 – 60 psi) into the fuel rail, and is able to keep the engine running.
The longest Rick has kept his Jeep going like this so far has been around 2.5 hours before it died. During that time, Rick was able to rev the engine via the accelerator pedal up and down, including to 3,000 rpms. It didn’t ever backfire. Somehow the car’s computer is able to compensate for the different fuel, and increase and decrease the speed the engine runs in response to the changing pedal position, just as it would if gasoline were running the vehicle. Perhaps the variation in airflow with the varying throttle positions with the pedal changes is what regulates the engine speed in this case. Also, the Jeep computer’s knock sensor automatically adjusts the timing of the engine to handle the HHOi gas. Rick was amazed to watch his gauge show the timing change on his Jeep.
The odd thing is that the rate of hydroxy gas production was constant, and was not governed to correspond to the increase or decrease in engine load. Nor is the rate of water consumption at a rate that present physics would predict would be needed for the water to be serving as fuel. Nor is the rate of electrical consumption in producing the hydroxy gas proportional to the amount of power manifest in idling the vehicle for that long. One of the pioneer researchers in the field, George Wiseman, points out that to be practical, the Brown’s gas (HHO or hydroxy) production will need to be nominally in proportion to the load requirement.
These attributes are similar to what Freddy reported, except he allegedly was running his friend’s pickup truck under load – driving down the road, speeding up and slowing down. Rick hopes to get to that point some time this week, with the help of an associate who is flying in to help out. If they get it running well, Rick would like to drive down to where I live and show it off to me.
… the hydroxy gas that both Freddy and Rick are allegedly producing is being called “HHOi”, the “i” symbolizing “ionized.” This is a term that James Sharp coined, and which Freddy has picked up
…
Ionized Air as Fuel Contributor
On Saturday morning, Rick called me up to report that he tried running just straight air with an air compressor into the fuel rail on his Jeep, and that it actually idled for 2-3 minutes that way. He was wondering if whatever leftover fuel that is in the system might be enough to enable it to run that long.
Because of some other situations I know of, I postulated that it may be that the pressurized air itself could be contributing to the fuel component — with petrol in this case, and with HHOi in the above set-up.
I know of another researcher who claims that several years ago he was able to get his car to run on air alone after getting above 15 mph — that the pressure of the incoming air was enough, and there was enough energy in the air from solar power ionizing molecules in the air, and his engine had enough of a combustion efficiency to actually utilize the air as fuel under that low pressure and flow. He temporarily abandoned this effect to first pursue something not so disruptive and difficult for people to believe.
This week I got a phone call from another researcher, this one saying that he got his Papp engine running, and that the fuel source is . . . air. He doesn’t want coverage yet, but we are in process of checking out his claim, as he invited us to come see it. The reason I feel compelled to mention it here is that the Papp engine process may be similar to the effect we’re discussing here.
pesn.com/2010/09/27/9501707_HHOi_under_pressure_into_fuel_rail_running _vehicles_on_water_and_air/
Daniel Dingel
He has been running his car on 100% hydrogen
(hydrogen from water) for 30 years (?!)
REFERENCES
*Stephen Chambers ‘Apparatus for Producing Orthohydrogen and/or
*Parahydrogen’ US Patent 6126794, uspto.gov
*Stanley Meyer ‘Method for the Production of a Fuel Gas’ US Patent 4936961, uspto.gov
*Creative Science & Research, ‘Fuel From Water’, fuelless.com
*Carl Cella “A Water-Fuelled Car” Nexus Magazine Oct-Nov 1996
*Peter Lindemann “Where in the World is All the Free Energy”, free-energy.cc
*George Wiseman “The Gas-Saver and HyCO Series” eagle-research.com
*C. Michael Holler “The Dromedary Newsletter” and “SuperCarb Techniques”
*Stephen Chambers “Prototype Vapor Fuel System” xogen.com
He has never tried any mixture of gas and water – he does not think it is possible. His car consumes about 1 quart (liter) per hour, he says. Conservatively 1 gal. should take you 120 to 240 miles? (30 to 60 mph) That makes water a lot better than gasoline on volume alone, not to mention price!
He is said to have converted 100 cars to run on water.
Ronn Motors, Dennis Klein, Francisco Pacheco, Stanley Meyer, Daniel Dingel and others have all done it with their designs
see our page, The history of Water Powered Cars
With Daniel’s death, it comes out that, rather than give it to the world freely, he got frustrated (?) and took a buy-out, giving his car and hho generator to a friend, Pete, to publicize after his death.
See our page on
Daniel Dingel 1968
or his friend’s site at
dingle foundation | dinglefoundation
many more videos:
UTube videos on building your own water to hydrogen generator / HHO Water Fuel
Other Options:
Magnetism:
There, finally, seems to be some significant progress toward powering a generator with a magnet motor. This goes a long way toward reducing the amount of battery storage needed to power an electric motor/vehicle.
see
A Few Magnet Motors
Vaporization:
“During our interview the eager young inventor revealed how he had discovered his fuel system by accident; “I was messing around with a lawn-mower when I accidentally knocked a hole in its fuel tank. I put a vacuum line running from the tank straight into the carburetor inlet (he removed the carburetor). I just let it run and it kept running and running but the fuel level stayed the same. I got excited. The lawn-mower was running without a carburetor and getting tremendous efficiency.”
see
Tom Ogle carb.
The
Nelson Pogue carburetor caused a sell-off of oil stocks in 1936.
9-14-2012
We cannot tell how much it will help, If
Daniel Dingel‘s HHO system is easier or not, but upon his death, he instructed a friend, Pete, to post how to make his generator.
See our page:
Daniel Dingel 1968
or his friend’s site at
dingle foundation | dinglefoundation Keep in mind that using water for fuel is only to “buy time” till
high-density batteries as good as or better than lithium-ion can provide 300 mi/charge or better. (already available in Tesla Motors “S” model) (as good as or better than gasoline powered vehicles) When we can tap the unlimited electricity in radiant energy all around us, then little or no fossil fuels will be needed for transportation or power generation of any kind.
Electric vs. Internal Combustion
The internal combustion engine is a device that inherently tries to destroy itself: numerous explosions drive its pistons up and down to turn a shaft. A shaft rotating at 6,000 revolutions/minute produces 100 explosions every second. These explosions in turn require a massive vessel to contain them-typically a cast-iron cylinder block.
Additional systems are necessary:
1 A cooling system to keep the temperatures within a safe operating range.
2 An exhaust system to remove the heated exhaust products safely.
3 An ignition system to initiate the combustion at the right moment.
4 A fueling system to introduce the proper mixture of air and gas for combustion.
5 A lubricating system to reduce wear on high-temperature, rapidly moving parts.
6 A starting system to get the whole cycle going.
It’s complicated to keep all these systems working together. This complexity means more things can go wrong (more frequent repairs and higher repair costs).
Unfortunately, the internal combustion engine vehicle’s legacy of destruction doesn’t just stop with itself. The internal combustion engine is a variant of the generic combustion process. To light a match, you use oxygen (O2) from the air to burn a carbon based fuel (wood or cardboard matchstick), generate carbon dioxide (CO2), emit toxic waste gases (you can see the smoke and perhaps smell the sulfur), and leave a solid waste (burnt matchstick). The volume of air around you is far greater than that consumed by the match; air currents soon dissipate the smoke and smell, and you toss the matchstick.
Today’s internal combustion engine is more evolved than ever. However, we still have a carbon-based combustion process that creates heat and pollution. Everything about the internal combustion engine is toxic, and is still one of the least-efficient mechanical devices on the planet. Unlike lighting a single match, the use of hundreds of millions (soon to be billions) of internal combustion engine vehicles threatens to destroy all life on our earth.
While an internal combustion engine has hundreds of moving parts, an electric motor only has ONE.
That’s one of the main reasons why electric cars are so efficient!
http://www.evworld.sg/EducationICE.htm
“Maintaining an electric car, according to some estimates, will cost about one-third the current cost of maintaining a gasoline-powered car. The bottom line is this: Electric cars require considerably less maintenance than gas-driven cars.”
Will Electric Cars Require More Maintenance? | HowStuffWorks
The Francisco Pacheco Hydrogen Generator Daniel Dingel, 1968 Dennis Klein’s Gas Engine Water additive Stanley Meyer’s water powered car Today
For detailed instructions on how to get 200-to-400 mpg fuel efficiency (run your car on fumes) see our page
Run your car on vapors-fumes http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/e...e-2in-diam.jpg the T fitting: 1 or 1.5 inch diam. about $3
1 or 1.5 inch diam. vinyl tubing: about $3/ft
from your hardware store
ask any mechanic,
“Any car can idle {and accelerate} on fumes. I (and countless other shadetree mechanics) have started, idled and revved quite a few engines using only a rag with some gasoline on it (don’t try this at home).” – Ike B.
“We just squirt a little gas into the carb and run the engine long enough to do any testing.” – owner of an auto repair shop
put a little gas in the bottom of a bottle and run a hose from it to the intake of the engine, no other fuel needed. it will run for hours.
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Share 241 Comments ←Older Comments - Emmanuel October 28, 2016 at 4:50 am
d flashback in question I suppose we are not to construct it our selves when we go to store to purchase one what are we going to tell d shop keeper we need to mention d flashback arrestor for a particular device not hho cell because shop keeper have no idea of d hho cell yet which simplest device’s flashback arrestor are we to buy sir? thanks the selfless service u are rendering
I have made extensive study on flashback arrestor I have learn DAT d water bubbler is acting as a back fire arrestor. The wire mesh type u recommend I am to fold it into a cone shape and insert into d tube output from d bubbler? sir u said fire don’t go tro mesh what about d fire DAT comes from gas burner it came from mesh hole isn’t it? thanks in advance for prompt answer u guys are very kind
a bubbler is all you need
Reply - Sandra November 2, 2016 at 11:10 pm
Can this technology be used on any gasoline engine? would there be adjustments
for smaller engines?
look at the first video of a generator (how about a lawn mower?) then look at a video of a car or truck
Reply - Ben Wahid January 5, 2017 at 5:32 am
Hi I would like to build one but i have no idea of recognising where to have the negative – and the positive + poules on the plates. Please advice.
B.Wahid
read this page and pay attention to the diagrams and videos.
Reply - John Cahill February 4, 2017 at 2:50 pm
First, I really appreciate your page…I have been studying this for awhile now. I’m pretty pissed that we have been being screwed for so long…but to my point. I want to put hho on my 99 Forerunner. How do I deal with the oxygen sensor? Or do I need to do anything? I don’t want to damage it, because it’s expensive and I will still need it to pass smog. I figure the system is simple enough to just disconnect it when I have to get it smogged and then re-connect it. I plan on using a 10.5 oz jar. My plates measure approximately 2 1/4 inches square with the corners cut off. 1-How many plates do you think I’ll need? 2- What is the optimum spacing between the plates? Thanks so much for any help you can provide. We need to spread this news far and wide as we make it work for ourselves to wake people up! Thank you!!!
Reply - Pramod February 6, 2017 at 5:01 am
Is any company made a generator safe enough for use in cooking?
Water is a hell of a lot safer than gasoline!! But, no co. will ever make these. The oil co.s will stamp it out!
Reply - Gavan March 30, 2017 at 10:40 pm
Your system is poorly designed and very poorly constructed… Basically you are boiling water. …
Wow, you really are “out of it”. A high school student studying chemistry for the first time knows better. Do read this page and learn something.
Reply - Adeyanju Adewale April 3, 2017 at 6:56 am
I am so much impressed and interested in your hydrogen gas generator. please i want to know how and where the gas was injected into the engine. i tried getting the materials within my locality but couldn’t get them. pls. i order the materials from you. You can list the materials with their prices mode of payments and how to get them. thank very much.
You cannot find a bottle, some wire and a few bolts? Also, cut and flatten a few tin cans for plates if necessary. OK? Good luck!
Reply - Matias April 30, 2017 at 10:58 pm
Hey! I’m Matias, I live in Argentina. I’ve been folowing the paradigm of free and renewable resources for awhile now. I’ve also watched Zeitgeist and Project Thrive documentaries (I do recommend them to you all!) and I’m a fierce supporter of Tesla.
I’ve always been interested in making my car run on HHO and I find this site just awesome!
It’s not about the money it’s about principles…this tech should and could have been used for awhile now but no…interests…money…industrial war complex and ect etc… it’s all about the money and power
Long story short, I completely support you and this site.
I will let you know when I actually start on my HHO engine project.
I own a RAM 1500 and even though I love V8’s and lots of HP I want to make it work NOT with gas.
I believe I will be able to make it run on 100% HHO
It’s not that hard! The circuit is somewhat similar to a PC water cooler which I already have set up many times (I have one on my pc now) it does have some other items and it is on a bigger scale we are talking about, but people! It is not that hard!
Lets all give it a try and contribute to a better planet with less contamination and with tech accessible to everyone! :)
I say again, I completely support this site and your idea and I’m more than grateful for all your work!
Thank you and best wishes on your success like the others on this page!
Reply - Mark May 13, 2017 at 4:01 am
This is awesome information. Can’t wait to try it. I will report back once I’ve successfully switched my car over to clean energy.
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