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  • #31
    yea the same engine..only a diffrent map and a bigger turbo but the same connecting rods with the same pistons and the same headers you find in the 120 version..
    maybe a sport header wont make that change but it will add and for the camshafts am sure they havent..and u can buy them sports camshafts and u can surf the internet and u will see sports camshafts that gives u from 5 to 30 hp more than the originals
    and i only said the free flow exhaust to tell u that they are restricted with the eco thing
    for the turbo size part they build the same engine and fit diffrent turbos to supply diffrent versions with the same engine internals and same injectors..so they know that this engine can afford the boost to
    make it 190 hp without any risk ..(considering they won't sell a car with an overboost damging it)
    also you can't say that they will sell it with 115000 and more 30BHP .. that way u wont buy the abarth version..again you get for what you pay..also putting in consideration that VW produces same cars with 1.4 TSI engine with different maps ..some have 140 and other have 160 ... and considering the turbo damge u can google the IHI(manufacturer of fiat turbines and email them asking how much boost can the t-jet 120 turbo generate saftely and they will tell you that it can boost till 1.5bar and the bonalume makes it 1.25 so it is safe... and i see from your speech that you don't know what is bonalume and what they serve..please visit thier websit Valvola Waste Gate Pop Off Fuel pression control Regulator pressure turbocharge - Bonalume.com and take a look...
    visit the test bench and choose theh grande punto t-jet 120 and you will find the dyno run graph for a car running with the kit..also you can say that the only risk in this kit is the original fuel regulator being damaged so they supply you with a bigger one with= the kit..also surf the internet for tuning boxes like tmc..the only diff between tmc and bonalume is that tmc kit is a less quality less tested one so they sell it with a lower price with no fuel regulator and allow me to tell you that people in italy and in fiat forum do 3 things after buying a t-jet car 1-fitting an induction kit 2-doing a remap or installing a tuning box if the person cares for warranty 3-doing a RR to know the power graph of their car ... all these are what what we call PRO'S do for their cars for a beginig of tuning or for a simple gain of power without having to twist your engine..thx again.

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    • #32
      المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة titish مشاهدة المشاركة
      yea the same engine..only a diffrent map and a bigger turbo but the same connecting rods with the same pistons and the same headers you find in the 120 version..
      maybe a sport header wont make that change but it will add and for the camshafts am sure they havent..and u can buy them sports camshafts and u can surf the internet and u will see sports camshafts that gives u from 5 to 30 hp more than the originals
      and i only said the free flow exhaust to tell u that they are restricted with the eco thing
      for the turbo size part they build the same engine and fit diffrent turbos to supply diffrent versions with the same engine internals and same injectors..so they know that this engine can afford the boost to
      make it 190 hp without any risk ..(considering they won't sell a car with an overboost damging it)
      also you can't say that they will sell it with 115000 and more 30BHP .. that way u wont buy the abarth version..again you get for what you pay..also putting in consideration that VW produces same cars with 1.4 TSI engine with different maps ..some have 140 and other have 160 ... and considering the turbo damge u can google the IHI(manufacturer of fiat turbines and email them asking how much boost can the t-jet 120 turbo generate saftely and they will tell you that it can boost till 1.5bar and the bonalume makes it 1.25 so it is safe... and i see from your speech that you don't know what is bonalume and what they serve..please visit thier websit Valvola Waste Gate Pop Off Fuel pression control Regulator pressure turbocharge - Bonalume.com and take a look...
      visit the test bench and choose theh grande punto t-jet 120 and you will find the dyno run graph for a car running with the kit..also you can say that the only risk in this kit is the original fuel regulator being damaged so they supply you with a bigger one with= the kit..also surf the internet for tuning boxes like tmc..the only diff between tmc and bonalume is that tmc kit is a less quality less tested one so they sell it with a lower price with no fuel regulator and allow me to tell you that people in italy and in fiat forum do 3 things after buying a t-jet car 1-fitting an induction kit 2-doing a remap or installing a tuning box if the person cares for warranty 3-doing a RR to know the power graph of their car ... all these are what what we call PRO'S do for their cars for a beginig of tuning or for a simple gain of power without having to twist your engine..thx again.
      Ummmm...Speech...okay

      You still don't get what i mean at all :)

      I guess we will have to agree to disagree...still not convinced yet...but i really appreciate the website !!

      Thank You !
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      • #33
        المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة ignition-kid مشاهدة المشاركة
        ummmm...speech...okay

        you still don't get what i mean at all :)

        i guess we will have to agree to disagree...still not convinced yet...but i really appreciate the website !!

        Thank you:m_yes[1]: !
        طب انا عاوز افهم معلش طول بالك شوية عشان انا محتار جدا,
        بعد ازنك انا عاوزك تقول لي اضراره ,
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        يعني الطرمبة مثلا, الكبس الزيادة يعني!!!!!
        يبقي جزاك الله خيرا
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        • #34
          انا رأي ما بين الرأين بس مش هكتبه لحد ما أحط إيدي على تفاصيل الموضوع كلها
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          • #35
            ببساطة زى ما titish بيقول و انا باكد على كلامه

            الموتور ال 120 هو هو ال 150 حصان ماعدا فرق طول شفرات التربو و الكامات فقط لا غير
            ال 150 حصان هو هو ال 180 حصان ماعدا التربو و الرشاشات
            ال 180 حصان ده بيتعمله remap و بيكسر ال 220 حصان بدون اى مشاكل
            جير بوكس
            مكن التى جيت بيشيل عزم لغاية 297 نيوتن/متر من غير اى مشاكل او مخاطر

            حاجة اخيرة
            اى تعديل فى العربية منورش لمبة check يبقى كده انت فى السليم
            اللى بيبوظ اى موتور مش التعديل نفسه و لكن كيمياء التعديل
            بمعنى لخبطة نسب خلط البنزين مع الهوا المضغوط من التربو و ده على طول حايحسه الكنترول يونت و حايدخل العربية فى ال safe or limp mode
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            • #36
              المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة yoko مشاهدة المشاركة
              انا رأي ما بين الرأين بس مش هكتبه لحد ما أحط إيدي على تفاصيل الموضوع كلها
              الله ينور, انا عاوز الخلاااااااااااااااصة.
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              • #37
                المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة Ghamrawy مشاهدة المشاركة
                ببساطة زى ما titish بيقول و انا باكد على كلامه

                الموتور ال 120 هو هو ال 150 حصان ماعدا فرق طول شفرات التربو و الكامات فقط لا غير
                ال 150 حصان هو هو ال 180 حصان ماعدا التربو و الرشاشات
                ال 180 حصان ده بيتعمله remap و بيكسر ال 220 حصان بدون اى مشاكل
                جير بوكس
                مكن التى جيت بيشيل عزم لغاية 297 نيوتن/متر من غير اى مشاكل او مخاطر

                حاجة اخيرة
                اى تعديل فى العربية منورش لمبة check يبقى كده انت فى السليم
                اللى بيبوظ اى موتور مش التعديل نفسه و لكن كيمياء التعديل
                بمعنى لخبطة نسب خلط البنزين مع الهوا المضغوط من التربو و ده على طول حايحسه الكنترول يونت و حايدخل العربية فى ال safe or limp mode
                يعني لو الواحد جاب ال bonalumi kit و حطها من غير اي تعديل في الموتور ال 120 مش هايضر في اي حاجة؟؟؟؟؟
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                • #38
                  المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة MNabeih مشاهدة المشاركة
                  يعني لو الواحد جاب ال bonalumi kit و حطها من غير اي تعديل في الموتور ال 120 مش هايضر في اي حاجة؟؟؟؟؟
                  internals لا مش حايضر
                  غير كده انا برضه زيك مستنى يوكو
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                  • #39
                    المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة MNabeih مشاهدة المشاركة
                    طب انا عاوز افهم معلش طول بالك شوية عشان انا محتار جدا,
                    بعد ازنك انا عاوزك تقول لي اضراره ,
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                    يعني الطرمبة مثلا, الكبس الزيادة يعني!!!!!
                    يبقي جزاك الله خيرا
                    انا كل اعتراضى على كلمه zero Risk....برضه الموضوع مش قصه ال Engine بيستحمل لحد ايه بس!!!

                    فين باقى العربيه ؟ هل بقيه الانظمه متصممه على الــ Power output ده؟؟؟

                    ده الناس فى الحرفيين لمل بتسقط موتور اقوى فى عربيه...بتعدل نظام الفرامل ودي ابسط حاجه ممكن تتعمل علشان تبقى الدنيا الى حد ما مظبوطه وفيه كنترول شويه !!

                    انا مش بقول ان الموضوع هايبوظ الدنيا خالص و ان النظام فاشل ومالوش لزمه...لا طبعا..لو انت حابب حاجه زى كده وعارف انت بتعمل ايه يبقى خلاص مافيش اى مشاكل تماما....بس برضه تاخد بالك...العربيه مش موتور بس ;)
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                    • #40
                      bro u have ABS EBD ESP and a fully functional ecu that isn't being fooled in readings considering your safety..the same chassiss can afford more than this power and the car isnt a lancer 1.3 that you are swaping it with a 2.4L ..it is a well build car and can afford that power

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                      • #41
                        المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة MNabeih مشاهدة المشاركة
                        يعني لو الواحد جاب ال bonalumi kit و حطها من غير اي تعديل في الموتور ال 120 مش هايضر في اي حاجة؟؟؟؟؟
                        yes the only modification is replacing the stock fuel regulator with the one with the kit and this is for better performance if u dont want it u can use it with the stock one but i recommend replacing..and you may need to change your air filter for better performance

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                        • #42
                          It seems that the argument will not end ok.

                          Zero risk, this is the magic word that you picked up and based your arguments on it. When I wrote down zero risk, I do mean, the kit has been manufactured, tested and endorsed by a well-known company that has a long history in car tuning. This means it is not made in Herafein like the ones making engine swaps. Off course, there always be risk even with the stock engine without any mods but I bought it and tested it for 5 month with no problems at all.

                          If you want to go further and discus remapping the ECU, I will tell you it is also not risky if you pick up a good tuner, offcourse from Europe (Not from Herafein and give him all the mods details of your car exhaust, CAI, big intercooler, BOV, HPFP, the octane grade, normal ambient temp. and so on),

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                          • #43
                            +1111111111

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                            • #44
                              Just be Clear while replying to a Post or something, Some people don't have the knowledge to judge for them selves.....write down all the cons and pros.....Thank you !
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                              • #45
                                i said am ready for any questions and i answered them all and the proof for that is that i am replying your posts that am sure they are wrong and i didn't hide any thing ..just plz don't waste my time trying to prove nothing

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