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بس متنسوش يا جماعه الباسات و ايرو
Dear All,
Salam 3alikom,
Really the site is a Pool of Pros.! Mashallah
Mr. Cryptonx, your overview of the Octavia is really very concise and to the point, just do u think the A4 would be in the same level of performance and durability of the A5?
I mean, many pepl told me that no significant difference between both other than the price, especially for someone not in to much of luxury.
Also, I would refer to Mr. Oskar quote about the Passat, what do u all think about it, we r talking here about same range of price i.e. 125k, used Passat (2003-2004), what will be it is location in the comparison especially in the spare parts and the maintenance.
Really I am glad to be in the middle of this discussion.
Thank you all
M. Youssef
I am glad I could be of use Sir ,
The A4 is pretty much the same as the A5 , minus the looks and the luxury features . its just a pure rigid solid and reliable classic car , but which brings me to a point , If you didn't like the Toyota ( Corolla I presume ) I dont think the A4 will be with any diffrence , Especialy knowing that its shape and performance ( shape part is personal I know ) is below the Corolla .
The Corolla on the other side , if you put the Shape aside ,is a car that Can live for you for the next 30 years without ever asking except for the Usual mantianenace and spare parts .
My dad used to drive an Automatic 1994 Corolla , We sold it in 2004 without even chaning the shock absorbers or any thing else for 10 years it didnt complain :D .
back to the looks/reliability , I'd rather drive a Japanese car over the A4 . I was recommending the A5 because despite being non japanese , it does really belong to luxury cars not the usual practical Japanese .
VW in Egypt are murder .. spare parts are super duper expensive , even for thier cheapest offering ( Pointer ) however the aftermarket has lotsa stuff for it .
I didn't hear anyone complain about Mazdas 3 as well , it looks fine , handles superfine and speeeds like it should .
Again I recommend going for a new car , especialy If you want it to last for sometime without changing again .
Just a small correction.
The A4 is based on the Golf 4/Bora Platform.
The A5 is based on the Golf5/Jetta Platform, which is far better than the Golf 4 one regarding stability.
The A4 and A5 only use the same engine, but even the gearboxes are different.
I heared people copmplaining about the A4s Automatic (just heared).
I owned a A4 for 6 years driving a little over 100'000Km and didn't have any problems with it except some minor things.
And durability is very good too. I didn't change any shocks or the like. Even the Spark plugs were the original till I sold it
Very nice car regarding stability, rigidity and durability
Most of its parts have the VW logo on, so it's is practicaly a Czech assembled VW with cheaper service costs
Tayeb just a little question mark,
If we r talking about same spare parts range - Octavia & VW I mean, then why not to go for VW, particularly Passat one?
In other words, buying VW means buying a name, a brand and a real make (made in Germany).
With all due respect to any zero car, just if and only if, we get a chance to choose between a trustable used Passat 2003-2004 and new Octavia A4, how would we trade-off this situation:)?
Let's consider it a brainstorming quiz, bear in mind, the answer will cost u a 125K :wink:
Owning a VW doesn't make it better than a SKODA , even if a SKODA is built upon the VW platform
PROOF ?
This is quoted from Wikipedia
I know it feels better to be in a VW , or even in an Audi , but in the end , they are all the same cars , same engines , ( especialy in Egypt ) , the only thing that's gonna matter at the end , is the shape / price .اقتباس:
The German automobile TV show Auto Motor und Sport compared the Škoda Octavia with its cousin, the Volkswagen Golf Mark V and concluded that the Škoda Octavia was slightly better than the Volkswagen Golf owing to a little more interior space and other specific ergonomics, better build quality, better driveability and a lower price.
Along with other Škodas, the Czech-built Octavia has been a markedly reliable vehicle, more so than the Audi A3 and Volkswagen Golf with which it shares platforms. In 2006 Warranty Direct, a UK-based provider of mechanical warranties for used cars, rated Škoda the top manufacturer (above Mazda and Honda), while Audi came seventh from bottom. The Octavia specifically had a reliability index of 32.74 (lower being more reliable) while the Golf produced over the same period was 87.28 and the Audi A3 99.43.
I say , If you can swoop the lowest priced one , with the biggest features ... you've won . ( asuming we are beyond the reliablilty part )
now back to your question ,
If the Passat was in Perfect shape , I would personaly go for it .
If it even had a slight bump or a stupid mechanical problem , I would dump it , for An A4 or for anything else .
H_hezzah , Thanks for the correction, I knew so , But I didn't want to include more platform specific details .
Dear Sirs,
Salam Alikom,
I believe recommendations go all to the brand new Octavia or (in case if exists – used 2003 Passat in an outstanding condition).
Though, for information only, could I get an idea about the price range of a specific spare part - let us say the headlight - of the following vehicles, which may give me a guide about what would I face after buy:
- Mercedes C180 year 2002-2003.
- BMW 318 year 2002-2003
- Passat year 2002-2003.
- Octavia 2007
Is such a comparison could give a sustainable after-sell indication for each vehicle