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    الصورة الرمزية Colin Chapman

    رقم العضوية : 24371

    تاريخ التسجيل : 07Nov2008

    المشاركات : 6,251

    النوع : ذكر

    الاقامة : القاهرة

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    الحالة : Colin Chapman غير متواجد حالياً

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    اقتباس المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة Colin Chapman مشاهدة المشاركة
    Welcome to the Official Moe-Joe Cell Website
    How to Run the Car with the Moe-Joe Cell
    "Got my Moe-Joe Working!"



    Suggestions for How to Hook up the Moe-Joe Cell to the Car
    Moe-Joe Cell Car Installation Instructional Video
    These are other, complementary ideas and suggestions of how I have conceived of hooking the Moe-Joe up to the car. Here are some of the possibilities.
    Practical Methods of Connecting to the Engine Theoretical Methods of Connecting to the Engine 1) To the Vacuum / Air Intake <<-- PREFERRED METHOD -Heart Engine Connection 2) To the Blind Plug (not much results with this method) 3) Just sitting in the Car, no direct connection (minor results)
    ***IMPORTANT NOTE - For methods on assembly of the cells for the car - click here.
    ***NOTE - On ALL car installations, place a 1.5 volt battery across the +ve and -ve of the cell to hold the potential when the car is running and also when it is not running.***
    Alternative Hookups, techniques
    1) The Topher "Dirt" Insulation technique 1) The Chris Felton "Moe-Joe Half Full" technique
    Practical Methods of Connecting to the Engine
    1) Vacuum Air Intake Installation:
    Sample Installation VIDEO using a Land Rover Discovery 2 year 2001 (Moshe's Installation)
    Sample Installation VIDEO using a Honda Accord year 2001 (Moshe's Installation)
    Sample Car Installation Video with Land Rover Discovery II 2001, Moe-Joe Cell
    This Video Contains instructions on how to assemble the Moe-Joe Cell and Install into the Car via VACUUM intake, and also demonstrates how to get under the car and locate the catalytic converter and the O2 sensors. (note: in this video, we chose a method we are no longer employing the use of - We hooked the two rear O2 sensors together and then we also hooked up the front two O2 sensors together - Also, we are no longer using the Cell Guardian. It DOES NOT WORK - it is a scam. We are sorry if this has misled anyone. The good results we got were exclusively from the Moe-Joe working, and NOT the Cell Guardian... click here for more on this).
    Note: With the vacuum air intake connection, the best idea to connect the Moe-Joe cell is where the water level is at exactly HALFWAY, so the Moe-Joe is half-full AND it is half empty. This creates an important Vacuum pressure in the cell itself. Thanks to Chris Felton for this important improvement. Click here for instructions on the HALF CELL ASSEMBLY.
    Short Sample Car Installation Video with Honda Accord 2001, Moe-Joe Cell
    Honda Accord 2001
    This short video demonstrates a Moe-Joe cell installed in a 2001 Honda Accord right in between the radiator fans and the exhaust. The cell stayed cool to the touch. note: in this video, we chose a method we are no longer employing the use of - We hooked the two rear O2 sensors together and then we also hooked up the front two O2 sensors together - Also, we are no longer using the Cell Guardian. It DOES NOT WORK - it is a scam. We are sorry if this has misled anyone. The good results we got were exclusively from the Moe-Joe working, and NOT the Cell Guardian... click here for more on this.
    2) Blind Plug Connection:
    Charge enough water to stage 3 using a Moe-Joe cell and place it into a Moe-Joe ready for installation into the car. Secure the Moe-Joe well, using rubber or some very well insulated material. Do not allow any part of the outer sphere to contact the chassis.
    The cathode bolt that is coming out of the top of the outer sphere, that is connected electrically both with the central bismuth core and the inner 2" sphere, will be sticking out slightly. Connect a wire to the end of this cathode bolt and shrink wrap it or tape with electrical tape - sealing any exposure of the metal to the air or any water it can contact. The length of the wire should be measured to be able to follow along the inside of the aluminum transfer tube and end at the engine block (for a blind plug connection) or some metallic component connected to the engine block.

    As seen in this picture on the right, this is an aluminum transfer tube, which an air-tight and water proof layer of PVC outside. The wire coming from the inside of the inner sphere, carrying the female energy and the neutral centre (what does this mean? - click here for some discussions on the theory behind the functioning of the Moe-Joe cell) will be brought to the engine through the inside of transfer tube. The aluminum of the tube should be contacting the outer sphere, and thus carrying the male. The female is carried by the wire to the engine block and should have an electrical connection right onto the engine block. The ending of the aluminum tube should not contact the engine block, and so some of the aluminum should be cut out at the end, to ensure that the PVC contacts the engine block and not the aluminum (which would short out the cell, since the ally tube is connected electrically to the outer sphere which will be charged with positive electricity from the battery)
    With this blind plug option, DO NOT seal for AIR tightness the end of the ally tube where it meets the engine... gasses can accumulate in the transfer tube and cause an explosion. Just fix it to the engine block / head so that it doesn't move around and make sure it is not sealed tight, to allow the small amount of gas to leak out and not build up.

    3) Simple Low-Maintenance Connection Method - Just Sit the Cell in the Car somewhere: The possibility is that the cell will run the car just by being charged to stage 3 and then hooking the cell cathode to the centre sphere to the negative of the battery. And then the positive electricity from the battery can be applied briefly to the outer sphere. This can be done with or without a transfer tube. It is possible that this may have an effect on engine performance, as there have been observations within the Joe Cell field of cells affecting engine performance just by sitting in the car, not even hooked up to the engine or battery.
    There are probably superior ways to get the moe-joe working with the engine. This technology will be constantly evolving, and that's a good thing for all of us. If you have some ideas, especially if they are tried and tested, please email them to me here.
    Whether or not this will, in fact, run a car, remains to be seen - but i think i'd like to see the Moe-Joe in many hands, and many people getting the success with it. Intuitively, i know it works. It is quite amazing. I also am sure that all the folk out there who have already ordered the moe-joes, will be helping me improve it for everyone.
    Theoretical Connection (Untried Theory / Idea)
    1) The Heart Engine
    Right now, I feel this is the most powerful and "sensical" one is The Heart Engine. What a beautiful design!! This is only theoretical for now...
    Introducing the Heart Engine by Moshe Daniel
    This design involves the integration of four different and very special technologies, with the main technology still featured around the Joe Cell / Moe-Joe cell. Some of the exact details of how to do so need to be advanced further and clarified – what is required is experimentation and some modifications to the car. Amazingly, the Heart Engine also functions alot like our very own Circulatory System - Hence called The Heart Engine.
    Our Circulatory System
    The FOUR different technologies applied are:
    John Keely’s water cavitation engine
    Lord Kelvin Electrostatic high voltage generator
    The GEET engine
    The Joe / Moe-Joe cell
    1. Charge a large amount of water to stage 3 using charging plates ala Bernie or Joe, or using your regular Joe cell or Moe-Joe cell as a charged.
    2.Install the Joe / Moe-Joe cell lying down horizontally in the engine compartment (here’s where the Moe-Joe is easier to do this with – it’s smaller). Isolate the entire cell electrically from the chassis (although there is an electrical connection to the inner tube). Apply a tube (ideally the tube seen here – which is an aluminum tube which water-tight PVC exterior) to the top – or out end of the Joe Cell – this transfer tube is going to be brought right to the intake of the pistons. (I don’t understand car mechanics that well, so I am just writing approximately – details to be worked out later) – this connection has to be SEALED – water tight and air tight. This transfer tube that is connected electrically with the inner tube or sphere, is connected electrically to the engine block – right where it connects and is sealed to the engine intake at the piston opening. So basically, here, the transfer tube to the engine will replace and follow the fuel line. Note: It is possible that this whole thing may work better with just the electrostatic generation as described in #4. In which case, the transfer tube should be isolated from the engine block, but still sealed to the moe-joe out and the engine input.
    3. GEET aspect: Connect another transfer tube on the exhaust of the engine – that is, the space leaving the pistons – as close as possible to the engine – and engineer this tube to be electrically insulated from the engine block – but sealed for air and water tightness. No leaks!! Engineer this tube now to perform in the fashion of the GEET engine – that is – the outflow from the exhaust will be brought to SURROUND the transfer tube from the cell to the engine. This will create a vortexing of opposite magnetic energy. Now, after the exhaust line follows over the inner tube going to the engine, it will turn and go into the bottom of the cell – which has an open connection – and an electric connection to the outer sphere / cylinder of the cell. This completes the circulation aspect, resembling the functioning of a heart – and the high voltage ignition coil is like the pacemaker of the heart.
    4. Lord Kelvin’s Electrostatic generator aspect: now, at the point where the exhaust tube is over and surrounding the inner transfer tube, could be set up with dissimilar metals at least for the portion that is intersecting at least 1 – 2 feet, with a minimum preferred at 18”. Aluminum for the transfer from the inner pipe / sphere and to the engine and copper for the outer one. The dissimilar metals could an increased electrostatic potential difference in the water charge. This can keep the water in the cell continuously charged while the car is running. It may also influence the voltage at the point of ignition. It is possible that this system can create much more energy than it is using.
    5. Keely’s cavitational water flow system – By having the flow of water through a pipe suddenly cut off, on the side of the cutoff, that is, where there was water flowing, now there is not, this causes a cavitation. This will occur in the pistons, when the intake, which ordinarily would take in a mixture of air and fuel, will take in ONLY the charged water which will fill this entire circulatory system – like a beautiful giant heart – this will add to the power of the cavitation – and also, the mist that will be brought into the pistons will also cavitate back to the state of water, and will flow out of the exhaust, and back into the circulatory system.
    6. Fill the entire Moe-Joe / Joe cell with charged water. Make sure the water fills all the way from the cell and fills both transfer tubes, but no water at all enters into the pistons… yet. The pistons should remain “empty” or vacuumed. To do so, have a hole made into one of the transfer tubes and fill it up from there – completely… measure the total volume outside of the car, and then fill with this amount. Make sure pistons are closed tightly while filling.
    Additional notes:
    This should work! I know it seems crazy – but all that is needed will be a clean engine with no gasoline in it. Ideally, a brand new engine, that has not even been tested with gasoline, so that it is pristine… brand, brand new. with nice pure good Stage 3 water.
    Also, when the charged water goes into the pistons, it will give up its energy – and so when it is back in the circulatory system, in the exhaust aspect, it will become recharged, with high electrostatic energy. The water will also become recharged by flowing back into the moe-joe… and anyway, the water is ONE within itself, within the Heart Engine.
    It may be necessary to hand crank this engine, as Keely’s motor required, in order to get the flow starting.
    Possible related article – firing of high voltage spark under water - http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/0022-3727/39/22/011 - with the Heart Motor, it won’t be underwater though.
    The engine should run cold.
    Use of the engine that has been dirtied with fuel –
    Run the car down to almost empty – then drain all the fuel from the fuel line and in the engine. Clean out.
    How the pressure be discharged in a closed loop system?
    I don’t think this is necessary – since it will a continual implosive force, and won’t build outward, but may build somehow inward and hopefully stabilize at a certain point.
    <<Notes on Lord Kelvin’s Electrostatic Generator –
    From High voltage device: Kelvin's Thunderstorm
    THE BASIC THEORY
    Even though water has no overall electric charge, it is full of movable electric charges (called ions). Half of the water's charges are positive and half are negative. It is not hard to separate these charges; simply hold an electrified object near the water. The electrified object will attract the "unlike" charges to the water's surface. It will also repel the "alike" charges away deeper into the water.
    In the above diagram, the positive object attracts the water's negative ions and repels the positive ions. This draws an excess of negative ions into the tip of the water dripper, while repelling an equal amount of positive ions off to the other end of the dripper. When the water drop detaches from the tip of the dripper, an overall negative electric charge is still trapped in the droplet. The falling water droplet carries away negative charge, leaving the dripper slightly positive. If we catch the falling droplets in a container, the container will become negatively charged.
    In the above diagram, negative water droplets will be continuously created forever as long as the water flows. However, this process does not exhaust the imbalanced charge on the positive object. Sounds like perpetual motion, eh? Actually no. The electrical energy is being created by the work that gravity does in pulling the negative droplet away from the grounded dripper, and away against the attraction of the positive object. The electrical attraction force from the positively-charged object keeps the tip of the dripper charged negatively, but the positively charged object does not supply energy. YOU supply the energy, since you LIFT the water to a height to fill the dripper. It's like the generator in a hydroelectric dam, but without the turbine or the spinning coils or magnets. The water itself becomes the moving parts of an electric generator.
    (Note: the charge polarities can easily be reversed. If the above "object" is made negative, the droplets would come out positive.)

    BUILDING A GENERATOR

    If we can make a positively-charged object somehow, then we can make negative water droplets. But where can we get a positive object? If there was some way to CHANGE the negative charge on the water into a positive charge, then we could use the water to charge up it's own "positive object". We would then have a a self-sustaining generator. There's a simple way to do this: build TWO water-drop devices like the one in figure one! See the trick? The device in figure one uses a positive object to create negative water. It uses positive to create negative. If we build a second device, we could use the negative to create positive. We could hook the two devices in a loop. The first one would create an imbalance of negative charge, which could be fed to the second one which would create an imbalance of positive charge, which would be fed back to the first one again. It might sound crazy, but it really works. >>>
    That is exactly what we’re doing – creating a loop where the intake line is charged negatively, and the positive line will / can be charged positively. Wow!! This is a free energy device if ever one was created. The continual flow of water will create a continual electrostatic high voltage generation with an even greater potential difference than with just ONE electrostatic generator – which possibly can be fed back into the flow of the high voltage ignition coil.
    The negative electrostatic potential will be feeding the inner cylinder / sphere with negative potential and the outer tube will be feeding the outer sphere / cylinder with positive – keeping the water within the cell, at the zero point between them charged with our magic.
    Modifications to Car Needed –
    - Disconnected the fuel line from the gas tank and connect / engineer to connect with the transfer tube coming from the output of the cell. The fuel pumps will be pushing the water through and into the pistons – from the cell and NOT from the gas tank.
    - Disconnect the O2 sensors / modify the computer to be able to function independently of the O2 sensors. (I am not certain exactly how to describe this)
    3) For some possible stage 4 effects, one could find a way of using the power of the ignition coil in the car to charge the cell on that very high voltage. If you have any ideas of how this can be done, ie - using the ignition coil as the power supply to the cell, please email them to me here.
    Topher's Dirt Insulation Technique
    My friend Topher came up with an ingenious way to insulate the Moe-Joe cell inside the hot engine compartment. Basically, he took two rubber gaskets, (one of which is seen, in the first video, on the installation in the Land Rover) - he put the Moe-Joe cell in the gaskets, which are placed together with their bottoms facing in opposite directions, and then filled the space inside the gaskets with earth, mud, dirt. This is an amazingly simple and easy solution to provide heat shielding in a hot engine compartment - the cell stays cool, and with this technique, the Land Rover went from 12.1 MPG to 17.5 MPG.
    Chris Felton's Moe-Joe Half Full or (Half Empty) Technique
    Chris Felton suggested, that for VACUUM intake, or Air intake hookups, that the moe-joe cell will perform much better if the cell is only filled halfway, as the pressure on the vacuum or air intake has no way of acting if the cell is filled. For the blind plug technique, however, it is important to keep the cell filled to the brim.

    All Contents Copyright © 2003-2009 Moshe Daniel Block, N.D.

    All rights reserved.
    Revised: This page was last modified Tuesday, August 23, 2011.
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    Healing, Consciousness & Energy Related Testimonials
    I am preparing to install a healthy cell on my truck. The cell is connected to a 6 v flashlight battery while I prepare to re-install it. It seems the cell has quite an effect on my household. Everybody's character have become more balanced, more aware of their surroundings. The corners of the house are getting cleaned. Dirt is coming out of crevices, tumors (or warts, not really sure) are being healed, love abounding. I have much enjoyed the presence of the cell's effects on my house so much so that I am procrastinating putting it on my truck. My sleep lately has been great and fulfilling and still it is not difficult to rise in the early morning to get the day started. It seems life is becoming much more balanced. So perhaps tonight or tomorrow I will install (very carefully ) this latest healthier cell back directly on my truck.
    C.M. from California
    Just to let you know, and I know this may sound odd, but the cell I ordered came in yesterday. After cleaning and prep I was able to fill it today and start charging.
    Now for the odd part, as a reiki practitioner, I noticed a very large jolt of energy as soon as I connected the positive terminal of a 12 volt battery I am using for charging. Even now as only the negitive is connected it is still putting out energy, and still has a 2.2 volt dc charge even 20 minutes later.

    I must admit I was sceptical about this, but I really do think something id going on that I cannot quite explain right now.
    R.E. from the USA



    I do feel energy directly and when we use the Bedini
    SSG it is a very special energy firm and gentle at the same time, it
    restructure body cells by providing the movement to regenerate body's
    electricity and reactivating the sodium/potassium pump
    (electricity being the result of movement here sodium/potassium) the
    Bedini's spark creates the initial momentum for the kinetics that will
    generate the body current.

    When inside a MJC it is like an antenna that calibrates the spark and
    diffuse it. It is more powerful, I mean it goes much deeper in the body
    than when you are standing beside the SSG and at the same time its more
    detectable further away. At the present I am in my office writing this
    e-mail and I have it in the kitchen withe the Bedini and I can feel it
    12 m away and it is acting deep into my body exactly where I have tensions."
    00000
    "When you charge the Moe Joe Cell it does not hold the current it more like raising then collapsing then raising and so on. (this is with a 12v battery or a Bedini's SSG). My feelings are :

    between sphere we are experiencing expansion et contraction (like in the universe) and this creates a torque giving the movement to the vortexes (like water going down the drain) a space time curvature with torque ! this creates a mini back hole. in the center."
    Isabelle and Jean Jacques from France


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    الصورة الرمزية Colin Chapman

    رقم العضوية : 24371

    تاريخ التسجيل : 07Nov2008

    المشاركات : 6,251

    النوع : ذكر

    الاقامة : القاهرة

    السيارة: لايوجد

    السيارة[2]: لايوجد

    دراجة بخارية: لا يوجد

    الحالة : Colin Chapman غير متواجد حالياً

    Thumbs up Moe-Joe Cell -

    Moe-Joe Cell



















    Since the gas jets were sealed in this carburater, Bernie designed a clever gas bubbler setup [fuel vaporizer].
    It consists of a glass jar with a tube from the outside air down and into a filter under the surface of the gas,
    and then an outlet tube near the top to transfer vapors to the engines vacuum ports.
    A thumb over the free tube will regulate the fuel flow.

    It is routed into two vacuum ports on the intake manifold and controlled by using a finger over the intake tube to regulate fuel flow.
    Then the valve in the fuel line is shut off and the engine will barely run, drawing only evaporated gas from the jar seen above.
    The main danger for this setup was discovered to be when the engine stopped we got a splash back and fuel would shoot out the regulator tube at us!
    The setup needs more design and an inlet valve to regulate this vacuum more accurately, but was adequate for our initial purposes.
    Bernie suggested a check valve and a needle valve for flow regulation be added in the future.



  3. #3

    الصورة الرمزية Mohamed Desoky

    رقم العضوية : 179850

    تاريخ التسجيل : 24Sep2015

    المشاركات : 1,478

    النوع : ذكر

    الاقامة : الشيخ زايد

    السيارة: شيرى a15

    السيارة[2]: سيينا

    الحالة : Mohamed Desoky غير متواجد حالياً

    افتراضي -

    انتى عبقرى ياكولن ؟ احنا محتاجين اهل العلم اللى عندهم طموح لمستقبل افضل زى حضرتك اللى بيبحث عن كل شئ جديد ومفيد وبتقدمه لكل الناس يمكن الفكره تلاقى طريق فى البلد دى ؟ مصر محتاجه 90 مليون كولن زيك لسه مااستسلمشى لجو الغباء العام للبلد ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟ربنا يبارك فيك ودايما تجيب لينا كل جديد ؟


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    الصورة الرمزية Colin Chapman

    رقم العضوية : 24371

    تاريخ التسجيل : 07Nov2008

    المشاركات : 6,251

    النوع : ذكر

    الاقامة : القاهرة

    السيارة: لايوجد

    السيارة[2]: لايوجد

    دراجة بخارية: لا يوجد

    الحالة : Colin Chapman غير متواجد حالياً

    Thumbs up شكرا جزيلا لتشجيعك صديقى العزيز -

    اقتباس المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة Mohamed Desoky مشاهدة المشاركة
    انتى عبقرى ياكولن ؟ احنا محتاجين اهل العلم اللى عندهم طموح لمستقبل افضل زى حضرتك اللى بيبحث عن كل شئ جديد ومفيد وبتقدمه لكل الناس يمكن الفكره تلاقى طريق فى البلد دى ؟ مصر محتاجه 90 مليون كولن زيك لسه مااستسلمشى لجو الغباء العام للبلد ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟ربنا يبارك فيك ودايما تجيب لينا كل جديد ؟
    شكرا جزيلا لتشجيعك صديقى العزيز


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    الصورة الرمزية Colin Chapman

    رقم العضوية : 24371

    تاريخ التسجيل : 07Nov2008

    المشاركات : 6,251

    النوع : ذكر

    الاقامة : القاهرة

    السيارة: لايوجد

    السيارة[2]: لايوجد

    دراجة بخارية: لا يوجد

    الحالة : Colin Chapman غير متواجد حالياً

    افتراضي -

    قالت مصادر مطلعة إن الحكومة تقترب من رفع الدعم عن الوقود ، حيث بدأت في طلب الصيغة النهائية لجداول الأسعار المقترحة، بالنسب المطلوب خفضها من دعم الطاقة، وفقًا للبرنامج الاقتصادي المصري، والمقدم لصندوق النقد الدولي، وفق الإجراءات المتفق عليها للحصول على قرض بقيمة 12 مليار دولار خلال 3 مراحل.
    وأضافت المصادر، في تصريحات لـ«المصري اليوم»، اليوم الأربعاء، أن الجداول المقترحة يجري وضع الصيغة النهائية لها، وفق مقترحات تتراوح نسب خفض الدعم فيها بين 8% و10% و12.5%، لـ«بنزين 92»، وهو ما تضمنته الجداول التي يجري الاتفاق عليها حكوميًا.
    وأشارات إلى أنه تقرر استبعاد مقترحات صندوق النقد الدولي بخفض دعم الوقود بمقدار يتراوح بين 20% و25% للبنزين، للوصول إلى السعر العالمي، والاقتراب من إقرار الخفض بنسبة 12.5%.
    وتابعت: «هناك اتجاه قوي لتأجيل رفع الدعم عن السولار، لأنه الأكثر استهلاكًا، في حين تم إلغاء (بنزين 90)، ولا تكفي قيمة لتر (بنزين 92) تكلفته، في حين عالميًا يعادل ما يقرب من 4 جنيهات»، مشيرة إلى أن «الحكومة تدعم بنزين 92 بنسبة 60%، وتصل تكلفته على الدولة إلى 4.30 جنيه، ويباع للمواطنين بالمحطات بـ260 قرشاً».
    ولفتت إلى أن رفع الدعم عن الوقود يعد إحدى خطوات الإصلاح الاقتصادي، ويؤدي إلى المساهمة في خفض عجز الموازنة، الذي يتخطى حاليا 300 مليار جنيه، مما يساعد على سداد قرض الصندوق.
    وتوقعت المصادر «تطبيق خفض الدعم قريبًا، خاصة مع التزام ضخ الكميات المستهلكة بشكل كبير، فضلًا عن الاتفاق مع الأجهزة الرقابية على تكثيف الحملات لمواجهة أي عمليات غش في الأسعار أو ابتزاز للمواطنين بحجة رفع الدعم».
    وشددت المصادر على أن استمرار دعم الحكومة للمنتجات البترولية المخصصة للمواطنين تسبب في عجز شهري بقيمة 6 مليارات جنيه جراء التكلفة الفعلية لتوفير المنتجات البترولية والغاز، مؤكدة أن «السعر العادل لأنبوبة البوتاجاز يصل إلى 50 جنيهاً، فيما تدعمها الدولة لتباع للمواطنين في المستودعات بـ8 جنيهات، وهو ما يجري مراجعته حاليا للتحريك، لكن في وقت واحد مع السولار».
    وقال مسؤول حكومي بارز لـ«المصري اليوم»، اليوم، إن «هناك إجراءات متفقا عليها مع صندوق النقد الدولي، لم تتخذها الحكومة حتى الآن، ومنها رفع الدعم تدريجيا عن عدد من المنتجات والسلع، وإعادة توجيهها للمستحقين وفق برنامج الحماية الاجتماعية».
    وأضاف المسؤول، الذي طلب عدم نشر اسمه، أن الإجراءات يجب أن تنتهي قبل شهر نوفمبر المقبل، كما أن هناك إجراءات أخرى يلتزم بها صندوق النقد الدولي، وسينفذها قبل الموعد نفسه، ليتم صرف الشريحة الأولى من القرض بقيمة 2.5 مليار دولار في الشهر ذاته.
    وأكدت المصادر أن «دعم الطاقة بلغ 35 مليار جنيه، بناء على سعر 40 دولارًا للبترول، و9.25 جنيه لسعر الدولار في الموازنة العامة للدولة».


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    الصورة الرمزية Colin Chapman

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    الصورة الرمزية Colin Chapman

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    الصورة الرمزية Colin Chapman

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    الصورة الرمزية Mohamed Desoky

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    قالت مصادر مطلعة إن الحكومة تقترب من رفع الدعم عن الوقود ، حيث بدأت في طلب الصيغة النهائية لجداول الأسعار المقترحة، بالنسب المطلوب خفضها من دعم الطاقة، وفقًا للبرنامج الاقتصادي المصري، والمقدم لصندوق النقد الدولي، وفق الإجراءات المتفق عليها للحصول على قرض بقيمة 12 مليار دولار خلال 3 مراحل.
    وأضافت المصادر، في تصريحات لـ«المصري اليوم»، اليوم الأربعاء، أن الجداول المقترحة يجري وضع الصيغة النهائية لها، وفق مقترحات تتراوح نسب خفض الدعم فيها بين 8% و10% و12.5%، لـ«بنزين 92»، وهو ما تضمنته الجداول التي يجري الاتفاق عليها حكوميًا.
    وأشارات إلى أنه تقرر استبعاد مقترحات صندوق النقد الدولي بخفض دعم الوقود بمقدار يتراوح بين 20% و25% للبنزين، للوصول إلى السعر العالمي، والاقتراب من إقرار الخفض بنسبة 12.5%.
    وتابعت: «هناك اتجاه قوي لتأجيل رفع الدعم عن السولار، لأنه الأكثر استهلاكًا، في حين تم إلغاء (بنزين 90)، ولا تكفي قيمة لتر (بنزين 92) تكلفته، في حين عالميًا يعادل ما يقرب من 4 جنيهات»، مشيرة إلى أن «الحكومة تدعم بنزين 92 بنسبة 60%، وتصل تكلفته على الدولة إلى 4.30 جنيه، ويباع للمواطنين بالمحطات بـ260 قرشاً».
    ولفتت إلى أن رفع الدعم عن الوقود يعد إحدى خطوات الإصلاح الاقتصادي، ويؤدي إلى المساهمة في خفض عجز الموازنة، الذي يتخطى حاليا 300 مليار جنيه، مما يساعد على سداد قرض الصندوق.
    وتوقعت المصادر «تطبيق خفض الدعم قريبًا، خاصة مع التزام ضخ الكميات المستهلكة بشكل كبير، فضلًا عن الاتفاق مع الأجهزة الرقابية على تكثيف الحملات لمواجهة أي عمليات غش في الأسعار أو ابتزاز للمواطنين بحجة رفع الدعم».
    وشددت المصادر على أن استمرار دعم الحكومة للمنتجات البترولية المخصصة للمواطنين تسبب في عجز شهري بقيمة 6 مليارات جنيه جراء التكلفة الفعلية لتوفير المنتجات البترولية والغاز، مؤكدة أن «السعر العادل لأنبوبة البوتاجاز يصل إلى 50 جنيهاً، فيما تدعمها الدولة لتباع للمواطنين في المستودعات بـ8 جنيهات، وهو ما يجري مراجعته حاليا للتحريك، لكن في وقت واحد مع السولار».
    وقال مسؤول حكومي بارز لـ«المصري اليوم»، اليوم، إن «هناك إجراءات متفقا عليها مع صندوق النقد الدولي، لم تتخذها الحكومة حتى الآن، ومنها رفع الدعم تدريجيا عن عدد من المنتجات والسلع، وإعادة توجيهها للمستحقين وفق برنامج الحماية الاجتماعية».
    وأضاف المسؤول، الذي طلب عدم نشر اسمه، أن الإجراءات يجب أن تنتهي قبل شهر نوفمبر المقبل، كما أن هناك إجراءات أخرى يلتزم بها صندوق النقد الدولي، وسينفذها قبل الموعد نفسه، ليتم صرف الشريحة الأولى من القرض بقيمة 2.5 مليار دولار في الشهر ذاته.
    وأكدت المصادر أن «دعم الطاقة بلغ 35 مليار جنيه، بناء على سعر 40 دولارًا للبترول، و9.25 جنيه لسعر الدولار في الموازنة العامة للدولة».
    والله العظيم انا زهقت من الغلاء نفسى اجيب قميص من الوكاله مش عارف الدروس كلت كل شئ ارحمنا يارب ؟



 
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