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  • اسبرانزا ؟؟؟؟؟

    الى اعضاء المنتدى المحترمين .


    ايهما افضل ؟


    1- نوبيرا موديل 2002 اوتوماتيك ( مستعمله ) استخدام راقى جداااا السعر 62000 الف

    2- اسبرانزا زيرو ( وانا خايف من الصينى )


    ولكم جزيل الشكر

  • #2
    - نوبيرا موديل 2002 اوتوماتيك ( مستعمله ) استخدام راقى جداااا السعر 62000 الف

    السعر دا كتير جداً عليها دلوقتي


    - اسبرانزا زيرو ( وانا خايف من الصينى )
    لو خايف من الصيني ماتجيبهوش علشان ماتتعبش دماغك
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    • #3
      بلاش الاوتوماتيك

      MMamdouh
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      • #4
        الاوتوماتيك مع اصدقائى مفيش فيه اى مشكله والحمد الله

        اعتقد انه اشاعه ؟

        بالنسبه للسعر انا شوفت اسعار من 55 الى 63500 حسب الحاله ومعظم اللى سعرها رخيص محتاجة مصاريف كتييييييييييييييير
        وانا عايز اشترى دماخى من مشاكل المستعمل ....

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        • #5
          in my opinion i would go for speranza.

          i had a chance to drive both cars from 2 days

          at first i tried the speranza (june 2007) which means the one with all faults solved. i was really impressed by this car, very comfortable,very solid, too much options, nice and quality finishing, very very roomy, nice sound isolation, and nice sound system. i also was imprssed by the way the door closes, it is really close to the german car, and not have the feel of empty or cracking doors like other cars
          of course i based my opinion upon its price-value ratio, it is not the best car but within this range i find it a very very good car

          after half an hour i tried a nubira 2005 manual, i was shocked by that car, very loud engine, and (beyzen ) in the whole car, cracking suspension all over the car, weak accelration, and weak body
          notice the car has made just 30000, and it is driven by an old man
          i wasnt impressed by the nubra at all, and i find the speranza much more better than it

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          • #6
            so you compared a brand new car to a 30k old car??

            get a test drive in the 2000 nubira( which is properly maintaned and seviced) and you will change your mind.

            never test used car to comparw with a brand new one... test a 30k old speranza or a brand new Nubira to be fair.

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            • #7
              sorry i didnt express my opinion well

              all what i meant is that the sense and feeling of a zero car is much more better than driving a used car even if it is in a superb condition and all its maintenance done.

              and i think it is very enough to own a car for 5 years then exchange it with another one so the speranze would be a nice option
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              • #8
                ده غير ان النوبيرا معروف ايه اللى فيها, و سواء التوكيل او الميكانيكية بره عافين كل حاجة فيها عكس الاسبرانزا

                قطع غيار النوبيرا موجودة كمان استيراد و جديد و كل حاجة, اما الاسبرانزا فى حاجات كتير مش عند الوكيل, غير ان فى حاجات جودتها وحشة

                لما الواحد يجى يشترى عربية, مش بس بيشوف العربية, لأ بيشوف بعد اما يشتريها هيعمل فيها ايه, من صيانة و قطع غيار

                و اعتقد ده متوفر فى النوبيرا و الاسبرانزا لأ
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                • #9
                  i think it is very enough to own a car for 5 years then exchange it with another one
                  depends on durability of the car
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                  • #10
                    Speranza has a future for maintenance and spare parts while nubira hasn't

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                    • #11
                      المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة معاذ الشرباصى
                      i think it is very enough to own a car for 5 years then exchange it with another one
                      depends on durability of the car
                      depends also on ur potential to handle any problem occurs in the car and ur ability to cope with it until it is solved

                      it is a complex decision depending on many things , but finally the buyer sacrifices some things infornt of other things, each one has his own sacrificable :lol: things
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                      • #12
                        sure thing... any car will look and drive great if it is brand new... it will be a different story 5 years later

                        i am not saying the speranza is bad... i am saying it is not throughly tested yet on the contrary the nubira has been tested and the issues it is suffering are well known... the speranza is still a closed book for all of us

                        it depends on durability and running cost... this is why a 20 years old BMW costs as much or even moe than a 10 years old Daewoo... it is all about durability

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                        • #13
                          MMamdouh,
                          I'm with your opinion which goes to test 2 cars of the same condition, but Nader meant that he prefers to buy a zero car more than an old one and this is fair enough :lol:
                          Meanwhile, he mentioned his notes on the Nubira after a use of 30000 km.
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                          • #14
                            and this is exactly my point

                            any brand new car will feel great... the question is for how long is it going to be that great?... no one can answer that for a speranza as it is a new entry to our market

                            also the nubira could have been abused and this is why it was not so good... my friend's nubira had 100k kms and it was a great ride

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                            • #15
                              فعلا الجديد جديد بس برضة انا افضل النوبيرا

                              طيب و لية متشوفش فيرنا جديدة !!!!

                              اهى جديدة و معروفة و منتشرة جدا

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