الموضوع: ممكن المقارنه بين الباسات وbmw 316 موديل 2010 وايهما افضل ولماذا

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة Elsarrawy

بعد اذنك ممكن تعرفنا الفرق بين اسعار البي ام والمرسيدس والباسات في المانيا كام تقريباً

طبعاً مع ثبات السي سي

والف شكر مقدماً

معلهش على التأخير في الرد لسه شايفه من شوية الأسعار كالتالي:

الباسات
الباسات فيه 4 باقات ( تريند لاين ، وكمفورت لاين ، وسبورت لاين ، وهاي لاين) وحاقولك على الأسعار للأتوماتيك الفتيس Dsg المواتير التربو 1400 سي سي و 122 حصان

التريند لاين: 27200 يورو
الكومفورت لاين : 28350 يورو
السبورت لاين : 28850
الهاي لاين: 31050 يورو

خللي بالك ال3 باقات الأولى العربية فيها من غير فرش جلد ولا نافيجيشن ولا بلوتوث ولا DVD ولا فتحة سقف عايز الحاجات دي تزود السعر على طول عليها.

المرسيدس
السي 180 CGI ودي موتورها 1800 سي سي لأن الكومبريسور ال1600 توقف من شهر مارس 2010 وكان فيه عربيات منها في المخزون موديلات 2010 بس خلصت كلها على اول اغسطس

لكن حأقولك على اسعار السي 180 الجديدة برضة:
هي بتبدي ب 32219 يورو ولو عايزها اليجانس او أفنت جارد زود على السعر 2070 يورو تبقى ب34289 يور ، وعلى عكس مصر الاليجانس والأفنت جارد هنا في المانيا سعرهم واحد ومافيهمش فرش جلد ولا فتحة سقف ولا المرايات اللي بتتطوي لوحدها الحاجات دي لازم تدفعها لو عايزها وبتغلي سعر العربية جامد

البي ام 316 ال 1600 سي سي
للأسف بالرغم من انها الماني بالكامل فهي لا تباع في السوق الألماني لأنها يورو 3 فقط ومعمولة فقط للبيع للأسواق الخارجية وانا ما اعرفش سعرها الصراحة انا كان عندي اول ما جيت هنا ال318 الشكل اللي قبل ده وكنت جايبها مستعملة وبعتها بعد سنتين وبعدين جبت الباسات وبعتها ودلوقتي معايا السي 180 كومبريسور

I will write down my opinions on Hondas:

I am constantly hearing and seeing people praising Honda which seems to be THE MOST OVERRATED & OVERHYPED CARS to ever come out of Japan. These same people bash other cars and like to tell you how "superior" their Hondas are.

The following is the dumbest things I have ever heard:

Honda Hype Vs. Reality


Honda cars have got to be the most overrated cars ever built. It seems that anyone who owns a Honda becomes a brainwashed Lemming, buying into the delusion that Hondas are defect free, never break down, and have better performance than any other brands.


While Hondas can be very good cars, they are far from perfect. Honda has had their share of product recalls. They are machines designed by humans. However, their owners like to overlook any quality or design problems. These problems are never mentioned when they are comparing their perfect Honda products to other brands, but are well known by Honda owners.

The Mysterious VTEC


Ask almost any Honda enthusiast which is more powerful, any brand or a Honda engine and he will always say, "Hondas, because they have VTEC and the shitty other engines don't!" Honda enthusiasts are always boasting about how "VTEC" makes Honda engines the greatest thing since the wheel was invented. VTEC is just variable valve timing, a feature that Nissan, Ford, and BMW all have in some of their engines. VTEC is just a crutch that Honda uses to make their tiny engines more drivable. Why do Honda engines need this crutch?
Honda engines (1.6 - 2 liters) used in Civics are very small displacement engines need to spin HIGH RPMs in order to make power, and be cammed for optimum air/fuel and exhaust flow at high RPM. This causes the small engine to have almost ZERO low RPM torque. Without variable cam timing which gives a different camshaft lobe profile for high RPM and low RPM, the engine would make the car undrivable.

The Horsepower Per Liter Ploy

A lot of Honda lovers (who are really brainwashed) like to cite their engines' "superiority" and "efficiency" with "Hondas make more horsepower per liter." Ahh.. the lame old "power per liter" ploy. Some high performance Honda engines make over 100 horsepower per liter. While that is nice, Honda lovers forget that those engines are only a tiny 1.6 and 2.0 liters! A lesser displacement European engine such as the VW 1.4 TSI make 180hp with almost 160% more torque than the civic 1.6. Do the math even if you compare with the SIR which already discontinued for the short-life time and inefficiency.
180 horsepower > 170 horsepower

Many Honda people have written in crying, "Not fair--that's a turbo engine! If you put a turbo on a Civic..."But we're not talking about "if" here. It seems they can't accept the facts. Honda does not make turbo-equipped engines stock from the factory and what I am talking about here are STOCK horsepower ratings, regardless of induction type. I guess it just hurts some Honda enthusiasts to shatter another one of their beloved myths, that only Honda is able to make over 100 HP per liter. While as I indicated above VW has made almost 130 hp per liter.


Please talk Stock Stock Stock engines that come out of the factories without any tuning.
Honda lovers like tell you that their cars have engines with the ultimate in new high technology while other cars are "low tech". This is not true. All the things that Honda lovers think of as "high tech" and "modern" actually are designs that have been used in cars since the 1930's in Europe.

Final word:


At the end and as a matter of fact a Honda is a Honda no matter if it is a sedan, hatch or a coupe.


Sure not all Hondas are fast. Not all Fords are fast. Not all BMWs are fast. Not all VWs are fast. You all get my point.