الموضوع: مقارنه في الثبات بين الالماني والياباني ___شارك معانا

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة japrulez

يا باشا الturbo دى تعديل خارجى من عنده يعنى العربية مش stock فهمت ؟
يعنى 200 حصان زيادة فهمت ؟
كون انه عمل مع السوبارو drag مع الفرق الكبير ده اثبت فشل ال m3 ال stock !!

باشا.........أعلى قوة موتور فى ال e36 m3 هى 321 حصان.....و بالتربو هتزيد كام ؟

دى e36 مش e90.....ال e90 هى اللى بتنزل ستوك 420 حصان

فين بقى فرق ال 200 حصان دول ؟

العربية مش ستوك دى معروفة.....بس هى مش 420 حصان ستوك و مش 500 حصان بالتربو.

استاذ Japrulez
الفيديوهات اللي انت جبتها كلها دراج ريس
يعني ملهاش دعوه بالثبات اللي هو عنوان الموضوع
ثم ان معروف ان العربيات ذات الدفع الرفاعي احسن في الدراج من الخلفي و الامامي

اما المقارنه في اوقات حلبه نوربرج فهي مش دقيقه ولا صحيحه
السوبارو موديل 2011 و البي ام اللي في الفيديو E46 يعني في فرق في الموديل و التكنولوجي
لو هنقارن يبقي المفروض بال E90/2/3 و لقيت ان ال E92 عملت 8:05 يعني الفرق مش كبير عن السوبارو اللي برضه دفع رباعي يعني اداء افضل في المنحنيات

ده بالاضافه الي ان السوبارو اللي حققت الوقت ده فيها تعديلات شديده في نظام التعليق يعني مش ستوك و اصلا العربية كلها Prototype يعني احتمال متدخلش الانتاج من اصله

بص يا jap

أنا للأسف معنديش الوقت الكافى أنى أقعد أدور على فيديوهات على اليوتيوب و أجيبهم......واضح أنك مقتنع برأيك مليون فى المية و مصمم عليه رغم كم الناس اللى بتعارضك فيه.

عموماً لمعلوماتك بس.....بى أم كان عندها e30 325x و دى كانت عربية دفع رباعى....بس منزلوش منها تانى فى الموديلات اللى بعد كده علشان الإقبال على شراءها كان قليل ( الكلام ده من 25 سنة و أكتر )

عموماً ده كلام واحد كان معاه 2004 STI و حالياً معاه 2009 M3

I drove an 04 STi for 5 years, so I'm pretty qualified to answer.

Acceleration/Engine - very similar up to around 100ish, then the M3 will start to walk away. Obviously you have to be busier shifting in the STi. There are also a lot of situations where the engine in the M3 is an advantage...like on a racetrack or in turns - situations where you have to shift in the STi, and not in the M3. The exhaust note of the M3 is pretty amazing; especially when you open it up with an exhaust - it sounds like a racecar. I always like the STi's exhaust note as well.

Braking - The M3 has better brake feel stock than my STi did, but the STi stopped better. Actually, at the time the 04 was released, I think it was #1 or 2 in the world in terms of 60-0 braking. Both need a fluid change and a brake pad change if you want to crush it at the track.

Handling - M3, no comparison IMO. You can certainly drive just as fast in the STi, but the feedback is not there in my opinion. I just like RWD more. The M3 is a pretty heavy car 3600+, but it feels like an overgrown go-kart to me. Obviously the STi has a huge advantage in adverse conditions. I use to look forward to bad snow in my STi; not so in the M3 ; )

Steering - This is a huge advantage for the M3. Again, the feedback is excellent. While I did definitely get feedback in the STi, the steering felt overboosted and a little loose. This was something that really stood out to me on the test drive.

Transmission - STi gear change is much better and more precise; also a much shorter throw. I added a SS to the M3 to try to help with this - which it did, but it still falls short compared to the STi.

Looks - M3; not really up for debate in my opinion. The STi can be made to look aggressive, but never really elegant. That's fine, I really enjoyed the looks of my STi at the time.

Interior - M3, no question. It isn't just about the materials used either. I've driven the crap out of my M3, year round, and there are zero rattles. The STi made a lot of noise...which I knew would be the case when I bought it. No regrets, just a different focus. The materials used in the M3 aren't just better than the STi, they're a step up from the regular BMW models - Novillo leather is really incredibly nice.

Comfort - The M3 is a lot more comfortable for me. I'm a big guy and the STi seats never fit me particularly well. This is actually a huge reason I bought the M3. I like to go on weekend trips, but anything over 3 hours in the STi would kill my ass and lower back. In the M3, I can go 5-7 hours with no issue. Still, I wish the M3 steering wheel telescoped another inch.

Stereo - My STi didn't come with one - haha! I put in a decent system, but the M3 is better. Still the premium audio in the M3 isn't as good as I expected, but it still beats the STi.

Service - No one has met my standards yet, but Subaru dealerships generally suck pretty bad and I had issues with a couple. Still, they tend to be far better than your average American brand.

That's what comes to mind off the top of my head. I'm sure I left some stuff out. I don't do a huge amount of mods since the STi was my daily driver, as is the M3 now. Obviously you can make an STi go very fast for a reasonable amount of money. For me, the STi, and now the M3, are plenty fast for me - on the road, track, etc. The final thing I would say is that there are a lot of intangibles that add-up on the M3 - little things that make the overall experience incredibly satisfying.