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    الصورة الرمزية M I D O

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    اقتباس المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة eng.geo مشاهدة المشاركة
    زي ما formulator قال كدة بالظبط
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    هو بيوضح عدد الصمامات مش الكامات اللي هو الأساس اللي بيزودوا عليه عدد الكامات للتحكم في الصبابات

    طيب لو المحركين 16 صباب بس واحدة 2 كامة وواحدة كامة واحدة معا العلم ان المحرك الاثنين كامة بيولد 107 حصان و الكامة الواحدة 109 حصان يبقي انهي افضل

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    و ارجــع روحــك عــالــيــة لـلـجـمـاهـيـر الـغـالـيـة و انـسـى كــل مــا فــاتــك و قــدم كــورة تـانـيـة ♥♥ ZAMALEK ♥♥


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    اقتباس المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة M I D O مشاهدة المشاركة
    طيب لو المحركين 16 صباب بس واحدة 2 كامة وواحدة كامة واحدة معا العلم ان المحرك الاثنين كامة بيولد 107 حصان و الكامة الواحدة 109 حصان يبقي انهي افضل
    طاب ممكن تقولي العزم بتاع كل واحدة كام وعند كام rpm ؟

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  3. #13

    الصورة الرمزية M I D O

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    اقتباس المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة eng.geo مشاهدة المشاركة
    طاب ممكن تقولي العزم بتاع كل واحدة كام وعند كام rpm ؟
    المحرك ال 2 كامة / 140/4000
    المحرك كامة واحدة / 140/4500

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    . . . . . . . أة يــا تــيــشــيــرت الـــعـــمـــر يـــا أبــيـــض ... انـــا الـــزمـــالـــك انـــتـــو مـــيـــن ؟؟ . . . . . . .
    و ارجــع روحــك عــالــيــة لـلـجـمـاهـيـر الـغـالـيـة و انـسـى كــل مــا فــاتــك و قــدم كــورة تـانـيـة ♥♥ ZAMALEK ♥♥


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    اقتباس المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة M I D O مشاهدة المشاركة
    المحرك ال 2 كامة / 140/4000
    المحرك كامة واحدة / 140/4500
    هو اللأختلاف هنا هيبقي لحاجات تانية غير انها كامة وكامتين ... ممكن فرق تكنولوجي تانية او Compression ratio مثلا
    هنا هيبقي الموتور الكامتين أفضل لأنه خرج عزمه بدري عن التاني ... يعني مش هتحتاح تقرص عالموتور عشان تاخد عزمه
    بمعني :
    الموتور الكامتين عشان تاخد عزمة هتوصل ل 4000 وتنقل
    الكامة هتوصل ل 4500 وده معناه تسارع أقل واستهلاك أعلي للبنزين من التاني
    طبعا هنا الفروقات بسيطة جدا ومالهاش علاقة بان ده كامة وده كامتين
    طالما عرف يتحكم في الصبابات كلها يبقي خلاص ... انشالله لو اتحكم فيها بـ stepper motor كل صباب لوحده
    ممكن هنا الأختلاف يبقي في زيادة تكنولوجي ... زي ال vvt ... هيبقي صعب عاكامة الواحدة يتحط (زي ما formulator قال ) ومعرفش ليه :D
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    افتراضي -

    اقتباس المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة Eng.Geo مشاهدة المشاركة
    هو اللأختلاف هنا هيبقي لحاجات تانية غير انها كامة وكامتين ... ممكن فرق تكنولوجي تانية او Compression ratio مثلا
    هنا هيبقي الموتور الكامتين أفضل لأنه خرج عزمه بدري عن التاني ... يعني مش هتحتاح تقرص عالموتور عشان تاخد عزمه
    بمعني :
    الموتور الكامتين عشان تاخد عزمة هتوصل ل 4000 وتنقل
    الكامة هتوصل ل 4500 وده معناه تسارع أقل واستهلاك أعلي للبنزين من التاني
    طبعا هنا الفروقات بسيطة جدا ومالهاش علاقة بان ده كامة وده كامتين
    طالما عرف يتحكم في الصبابات كلها يبقي خلاص ... انشالله لو اتحكم فيها بـ stepper motor كل صباب لوحده
    ممكن هنا الأختلاف يبقي في زيادة تكنولوجي ... زي ال vvt ... هيبقي صعب عاكامة الواحدة يتحط (زي ما formulator قال ) ومعرفش ليه :D
    وطبعا الموتورين مافيهومش vvt أصلا فمفيش أختلاف في الحتة ده
    مشكور حضرتك و المحركين فيهم تكنولوجيا ال 2 كامة فية vvt و الكامة واحدة فية dvvt

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    . . . . . . . أة يــا تــيــشــيــرت الـــعـــمـــر يـــا أبــيـــض ... انـــا الـــزمـــالـــك انـــتـــو مـــيـــن ؟؟ . . . . . . .
    و ارجــع روحــك عــالــيــة لـلـجـمـاهـيـر الـغـالـيـة و انـسـى كــل مــا فــاتــك و قــدم كــورة تـانـيـة ♥♥ ZAMALEK ♥♥


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    الصورة الرمزية M I D O

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    و ارجــع روحــك عــالــيــة لـلـجـمـاهـيـر الـغـالـيـة و انـسـى كــل مــا فــاتــك و قــدم كــورة تـانـيـة ♥♥ ZAMALEK ♥♥


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