الموضوع: الزيت الأفضل لهيونداي إلينترا 2007

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة borio1704

خلي بالك إن الكتالوج طالب إن الزيت يكون معتمد من ILSAC.. والزيوت اللي فيها الخاصية دي في مصر قليلة شوية

الزيت ده كويس جدا..


5W-30 Oil | Mobil 1 x1 5W-30


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من زمان و الزيت ده موش فاهم ايه تطبيقاته .. هو و كمان الموبيل ESP

الملاحظه :
- انه SN/SM و GF5 .. بس تصنيفه موش متناسب لما نبص على ACEA و هى ACEA A1/B1

- انه موجه للسوق الامريكى ( خصوصا لفورد ) و لذلك حدد A1/B1 .. لاحظ موافقات فورد المتعددده .. او موافقه Dexos 1

- HTHS و هى high temperature / high shear قيمتها 3.1 .. و هى اقل من مواصفه A3 التى لا تقل عن 3.5

- طبقا لتعريف ACEA هو زيت موجه للمواتير التى تستلزم معامل احتكاك منخفض و لزوجه خفيفه و يالذات لزوجه 5W20

- لا اعتقد ان هذا الزيت يمكن استعماله لاكثر من 6 شهور ( بمقارنه تعاريف ACEA )

ACEA A1/B1 Stable, stay-in-grade oil intended for use at extended drain intervals in gasoline engines and car & light van diesel engines specifically designed to be capable of using low friction low viscosity oils with a high temperature / high shear rate viscosity of 2.6 mPa*s for xW/20 and 2.9 to 3.5 mPa.s for all other viscosity grades. These oils are unsuitable for use in some engines. Consult owner manual or handbook if in doubt.

ACEA A3/B3 Stable, stay-in-grade oil intended for use in high performance gasoline engines and car & light van diesel engines and/or for extended drain intervals where specified by the engine manufacturer, and/or for year-round use of low viscosity oils, and/or for severe operating conditions as defined by the engine manufacturer.

ACEA A3/B4 Stable, stay-in-grade oil intended for use in high performance gasoline and direct injection diesel engines, but also suitable for applications described under A3/B3.

رابط به مناقشه مفيده
https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forum..._vs_ACEA_A3/B3

Typically the A3 rated oils are blended near the high end of the 30 weight range (which is 9.3 - 12.5 cSt), so your typical A3 rated 5W-30 (30 weight) will usually be ~ 12.0 cSt.

The typical SM or A1/A5 rated 5W-30 oil will be a little thinner in viscosity usually ~ 10.5 cSt.

In a cooler climate like here in Alberta, running the little thinner 5W-30's would be fine (especially in the cooler months, fall, winter, spring). In a hotter climate like where you are, and in the Southern US, I would probably want the little thicker A3 type oil.

رابط اخر يوضح متطلبات فورد , ACEA A1/B1
Use of ICEA A3 oil when ACEA A1/B1 is recommended. - Topic

The oil is marketed by Vauxhall/Opel(GM) and is the latest oil for use with their extended service interval schedule. Its full name and specification, as marked on the can, is as follows:- GM 5W30 Long Life Super Synthetic Engine Oil.
Specification: GM-LL-A-025: GM-LL-B-025: ACEA/A3/B3/B4: API SL/CF.
With the 5W30 rating and associated high specification, I assumed it would be suitable for my engine, so contacted Ford before committing myself. They responded by saying that only 5W30 oil conforming to Ford Specification WSS-M2C913-B can be used for service fill, but that 5W30 oil to ACEA A1/B1 can be used for top up.
Not knowing who manufactures the GM oil, I contacted Shell UK asking if their Shell Helix Ultra, which is a similar spec to the GM oil and conforms to ACEA A3/B3/B4, was suitable for my engine. They replied that only their Helix F 5W30 was recommended for my car, as it met the relevant Ford specification, as quoted earlier, and aslo met ACEA A1/B1-98, (The latest ACEA spec is dated 04, which makes it 6 years out of date!) I also asked what were the negative aspects of using a 5W30 ACEA A3/B3/B4 oil in place of an A1 and they said fuel economy would be sacrificed and that it may be incompatible with bearings, valve train and piston components, and that the oil could age prematurely, shortening the oil change interval considerably. Castrol, in response to a separate query, stated that A3 was not superior to A1, but was just different.

فى اعتقادى ان المواصفات الاوروبيه ACEA اعلى بمراحل من المواصفات الامريكيه سواء API او GF-5 .. و نفس الامر ينطبق على الزيوت بصفه عامه ( و ليس لاسم ماركه معين بعينه .. لكن كفكره عامه )

السؤال .. لماذا ارفض زيت لمجرد انه لا يحمل المواصفه الامريكيه و هو يحمل مواصفه اوروبيه قد تكون افضل و تحقق كل متطلباتها ؟

تحياتى و اعزازى و تقديرى

المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة hanytawfeek

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
أرجو المساعدة في إختيار زيت المكينة الأفضل لهيونداي إلنترا 2007 وقمت بالبحث في الكاتلوج الخاص بالسيارة ووجدت هذه المعلومة الخاصة باختيار الزيت
for better fuel economy, it is recommended to use the engine oil of a viscosity grade sae 5w-
20,5w-30 (api sj, sl / ilsac gf-3 or above). However, if the engine oil is not available in
your country, select the proper engine oil using the engine oil viscosity chart
ولكن للأسف لم أستطع تحديد الأفضل
ملحوظة السيارة هيونداي أفانتي s16 وارد كوريا

دى موش المواصفه بالكامل .. ده تفضيل لاستهلاك البنزين

صور صفحتين المواصفه بالكامل .. جدول اللزوجات .. و مواصفه الزيت المطلوبه بالكامل