إنهيــار صنــاعة السيــارت فى العالم و خاصة الأمريكية !!

[mtema99]

مش عارف انشروا في منتدى كريسلر ولا في جي ام فنشرتوا بره فالسيارات الامريكيه

يبدوا ان الازمات الماليه المتلاحقه على الولايات المتحده كانت من و تبادل التكنولوجيا الرخيصه هي المحرك الاول

وراء هذه القنبله النوويه المدويه

و اقتربنا بالفعل من ان نشاهد اندماج كلي للشركتين او مجموعتين من اهم مصنعي السيارات

و اصبحنا نتحدث عن جنرال موتورز كريسلر

في صفقه ستعلوا بالشركتين معا او تنهار بهما صناعه السيارات الامريكيه

Capping off a week that saw General Motors’ share price take a 31% hit in a single day comes a new report claiming the carmaker is in talks with Chrysler over a possible merger deal. According to an inside source familiar with the talks, GM approached Chrysler more than a month ago to discuss an acquisition and other “mutual interests”.

GM had already been in talks with Chrysler’s current owner, Cerberus Capital Management, over the sale of its portion of GMAC, however the rough state of financial markets eventually took its toll on the auto-lending firm, and this in turn lead to a breakdown in talks, the source revealed during an interview with the Wall Street Journal.

In the latest round talks, GM is reportedly keen to trade its remaining 49% stake in GMAC for Cerberus’ 80.1% stake in Chrysler’s automotive operations. This would give Cerberus complete ownership of GMAC, while GM would own the 80.1% stake in Chrysler and Germany’s Daimler AG would retain its 19.9% portion.

While GM’s share price and current financial state may make it appear to be in a poor position to take control of Chrysler, the source said both parties are keen to move their remaining assets quickly and a merger still has a “50-50” chance of being approved. A final decision, however, isn’t expected for several weeks at least.

GM also announced on Friday that it had ruled out seeking bankruptcy protection, claiming that such a decision is not in the best interests of its employees, stockholders, suppliers or customers, and that its North American restructuring plan is still on track.

[mtema99]

مقال اول امس

The first reports claiming talks of a merger between industry giants General Motors and Chrysler emerged as recently as a week and a half ago but the latest buzz is that a final announcement could be made within two weeks. USA Today has reported on its website that both companies are looking to wrap up the merger talks before the presidential election on November 4.

The information was revealed by an inside source familiar with the negotiations. They also claim that both GM and Chrysler are lobbying for further government financial assistance to help seal the deal, and that the outcome will depend on whether the costs savings from potential synergies would outweigh the difficulties that come with combining firms with overlapping product lines and vastly different corporate cultures.

Analysts have criticized GM's plans to merge with Chrysler, mostly because of the overlapping of brands and products. The savings, however, are expected to be substantial, and on top of this Chrysler has $11 billion in cash reserves. Most of the cost savings would be generated by consolidating dealer networks and administrative procedures, merging brands and cutting staff.

Currently, Chrysler has around 3,500 dealers while GM has 6,500. Combining the two would result in around 10,000 dealers, resulting in a gross overlap of resources.

Others are less optimistic about the possible merger. GM's current strategy reflects the need to avoid overcrowding various segments, which would conflict with an acquisition of the similarly marketed Chrysler brands.

However, GM is not the only suitor knocking on Chrysler's door, with reports claiming Renault is also considering playing some role in the sale. There remains a distinct possibility that Chrysler could be broken up between Renault and GM.

Meanwhile, Chrysler's current owner Cerberus Capital Management is also nearing a deal with Daimler to purchase the former parent’s 19.9% stake in the company. According to Reuters, any deal done with either GM or Renault would be dependent on Cerberus acquiring the remaining shares of Chrysler. At the same time, Cerberus could also end up swapping Chrysler with GM for the remaining portion of auto-lending firm GMAC, which it already owns a 51% stake and GM the other 49%.

[mtema99]

مقال امس

As the potential merger between General Motors and Chrysler becomes clearer in detail, it is beginning to look less and less likely due to problems with the financing necessary for GM to complete the deal. Government aid could bridge the gap, but so far nothing along those lines has been proposed.

Executives at GM are confident they can acquire what it wants of Chrysler and improve its own position, but outsiders think such a result neglects the financial realities of the purchase, reports Autmotive News. Acquiring Chrysler would cost GM a great deal of cash - something it does not have an abundance of at the moment, despite a large quantity on the books. Financing the purchase is likewise not a strong option given the current status of the United States' major lending institutions and GM's own credit risk rating.

Chrysler is also carrying $9 billion in debt that would need to be either paid off or refinanced upon acquisition, further complicating matters for the merger. GM had nearly $21 billion in cash at the middle of the year, but was using about $1 billion per month at the time, and likely even more now as the market continues to slide. It must still generate another $4-5 billion in cash to pay off 30,000 to 40,000 union jobs that could be cut in a merger between the two companies if the deal does move forward.

Government funding for the merger, if made available, could potentially salvage the deal and stave off some of the massive layoffs that would otherwise be necessary. Excess capacity for a combined and presumably streamlined operation would still necessitate some layoffs, but if the merged company wasn't forced to deal with raising billions in cash through cost-cutting, it might be able to hold on to more of the workers currently employed by both companies.

GM does have the possibility of trading its remaining stake - 49% - in GMAC to Cerberus, owner of Chrysler, for all or part of its 81% share in the company, but that, too is fraught with debt and other difficulties. Nevertheless, the parties are charging forward, with a possible announcement within two weeks time.

[mtema99]

على العموم هنشوف الموضوع هيرسي على ايه

[Chicco]

على العموم هنشوف الموضوع هيرسي على ايه

و أنا متابع معاك يا mtema باشا :)

[mtema99]

اليكم اخر الانباء حتى الان

في اطار مساعي كريسلر لترتيب الاوراق و جلب حفنه اخرى من الاموال

لبدء مرحله شرائها الكامل من قبل الجنرال كما يطلقون عليه General Motors

اوقفت كريسلر التطوير على الجيل الجديد من محركات ال في 6

و اليكم الخبر

Chrysler’s future Phoenix V6 engine has been speculated on for the past several years and now as the company is the midst of merger talks there are claims that the $3 billion engine project may have been shelved.

The Phoenix V6 was touted to be a world class engine designed for Chrysler’s entire portfolio of brands, including its Jeep SUVs, Chrysler sedans and minivans, and Dodge pickup trucks. Some of its planned features included direct-injection and cylinder-deactivation technologies as well as variable valve timing.

While Chrysler is yet to confirm if development of the Phoenix has been canceled, Allpar reports that one of the plans that was scheduled to build the engine has been told the project has been canned. The latest rumor comes less than a week after Chrysler dropped plans to build a new dual-clutch transmission with Getrag.

If the claims prove true, their close proximity with reports of a possible merger between Chrysler and General Motors or Renault-Nissan suggests that a deal will go ahead sometime in the near future. Both GM and Renault-Nissan build some of the most modern and high-tech V6 engines in the industry – GM with its HF (high feature) V6 and Renault-Nissan with the award-winning VQ series.

Chrysler canceling its own development plans makes sense as the Phoenix project was previously reported to have a bill of around $3 billion.

و في خطوه اخرى على صعيد اخر

اعلنت jp- morgan انها ستدخل في عمليه الاندماج بين كريسلر و بين جنرال موتورز


A group of banks led by mega bank JPMorgan Chase have joined the discussions between General Motors and Cerberus Capital Management over the sale of Chrysler LLC. JPMorgan Chase holds about $10 billion in Chrysler debt and is apparently eager to help General Motors acquire the beleaguered, privately-held automaker.

“While a GM-Chrysler tie-up would clearly be a high risk transaction from an operational perspective, such a transaction may give GM leverage over two key stakeholders: the UAW and banks,” JPMorgan auto industry analyst Himanshu Patel wrote in a research note provided to journalists yesterday. “By saving Chrysler from a liquidity event, GM may also be able to get itself much needed secured bank financing from the same banks that are currently holding Chrysler debt.”

GM would also gain access to Chrysler’s $11 billion in cash, though the combined group would ultimately shed up to 30,000 jobs, according to those close to the discussions. The job cuts would, naturally, be devastating to the Michigan economy, as well as Chrysler employees at plants, dealerships and regional offices throughout the United States.

Ann Arbor, Michigan-based David Cole, chairman of the Center for Automotive Research, said that the GM-Chrysler deal is “90 percent certainty” during an interview with the Detroit News.

“The cost of a cleanup would be a lot of more than preventative measures,” he told the paper. “The banks are pushing hard. They want to see a consolidation. A combined GM-Chrysler becomes too big to fail from a policy standpoint.”

[mtema99]

و في مقال جديد

قال بعض المختصين ان الشركتين تنويان التسريع في عمليه الاندماج

و اليكم المقال

General Motors and Cerberus reportedly want to act as quickly as possible if they are going to make a move on Chrysler. It seems that the two bargainers would like to come to a decision before the upcoming Presidential elections, as they believe they may get more promises from either candidate before the actual vote takes place. A potential problem exists though, as General Motors is finding it tough to come up with the cash needed to make a deal happen and banks aren't about the lend it to them. An alternative option that's being considered is getting government backing for the deal.

Though it sounded hard to believe when we first heard the GM/Chrysler merger rumors, it truly appears that these talks are taking place at a very high level and the deal could indeed be on its way to. We'll just need to pay close attention in the next few weeks to the reactions from the Feds, the UAW and the thousands of workers that would inevitably be affected by the deal. Stay tuned.

[mtema99]

Gm Sell Acdelco

General Motors Explores Potential Sale of ACDelco

General Motors (NYSE:GM) announced today that it is exploring a potential sale of ACDelco, its global independent aftermarket parts business, a brand of GM Service & Parts Operations. A sale is expected to promote more rapid growth of ACDelco globally.

As the company announced in July, GM is undertaking a number of initiatives to bolster its liquidity position by approximately $15 billion through year-end 2009, including the sale of assets which are expected to generate approximately $2-4 billion of liquidity. In addition to the ACDelco business, GM previously announced it is exploring the potential sale of its Hummer brand and its technical and manufacturing center in Strasbourg, France.

ACDelco provides light-duty maintenance and repair parts and associated services for both GM and non-GM vehicles in more than 100 countries. Part of GM Service & Parts Operations, ACDelco is headquartered in Grand Blanc, MI, with approximately 600 employees worldwide.

GM has retained Merrill Lynch to assist in this initiative.

[Chicco]

أخر خبر .....gm و كرايسلر طالبين ١٠ بليون دولار إعانة من الحكومة الأمريكية علشان مشروع الاندماج يتم ......طبعا هما ماسكين الحكومة من ايديها اللي بتوجعها .....أي إنهيار أو قفل مصانع أو تسريح عمال دلوقتي ممكن يضرب الأقتصاد الأمريكي كله في مقتل .....و سلم لي على الرأسمالية الحرة و عدم تدخل الدولة ;)

[mtema99]

hehe

سبقتني

بس هو الحوار تحول الى نوع من انواع الملل

و خصوصا بعد ما عملوا استفتاء شعبي تقريبا على موضوع ده

What will happen to Chrysler?

و كانت الاختيارات كالاتي بالترتيب

GM will buy it and kill it
Renault will buy some of it
It will become "Renault US
GM will buy it

[Chicco]

مرة من نفسي يا باشا :)
الموضوع أصلا واخد نعرة قومية من نظام احنا حنبيع ولادنا للاغراب و بتاع .....و أيام انتخابات بقى .....و لا كأنه مولد و صاحبه غايب

[mtema99]

اخر الاخبار

هو الصراحه فيه اخبار كتيره

اولها

GM Posts $4.2 Billion in Q3 Operating Loss, Says it Could Run out of Cash

مما كان له اثر ليس على الغاء الاندماج المزمع مع جارتها كريسلر فحسب(الخبر الثان)

بل من الممكن ان لا تصل جنرال موتورز الى نهايه هذا العام من دون ان تشهر افلاسها

في تطور هو جديد و حاد جدا خسر الجنرال ما قيمته اربع مليارات و مائتان مليون دولار امريكي

و هناك اتجاه لاغلاق مصانع اكثر

و اليكم التقارير

General Motors posted a $4.2 billion third- quarter operating loss and said its available cash fell to $16.2 billion on Sept. 30 from $21 billion at the end of June. GM said that while it will try to boost liquidity, it might fall below the minimum amount of cash (estimated to be around $11 billion to $14 billion) needed to keep the company operating by the end of the year and asked for federal aid.

GM, which saw its U.S. auto sales fall a staggering 45% in October, reported a net loss of $2.5 billion or $4.45 per share for the third quarter, including special items. That compares with a net loss from continuing operations of $42.5 billion or $75.12 per share in the third quarter of 2007, which included a non-cash charge of $38.3 billion to establish a valuation allowance against some of the company's net deferred tax assets. The company's revenue for months of July, August and September was $37.9 billion, down from $43.7 billion in the year-ago quarter.

Trading of General Motors stocks halted at 11:04am EST this morning in anticipation of a major announcement concerning the company's financial situation. The substance of that announcement revealed that high fuel prices, slumping sales and a tough finance market have led to a net loss of $2.5 billion for the third quarter, and an adjusted loss of $4.2 billion.

The result isn't unexpected, as Ford announced a similar pre-tax result earlier today and the industry in general has been releasing poor to dismal figures all week. Nevertheless, the big loss means the planned pairing of Chrysler and GM is officially on the back burner for the near term even if major aid from the federal government does come through.

“The third quarter was especially challenging for the auto industry. Consumer spending, which represents close to 70 percent of the U.S. economy, fell dramatically, and the abrupt closure of credit markets created a downward spiral in vehicle sales,” said Rick Wagoner, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. “The U.S. government’s actions to help stabilize the credit markets and eventually ease the credit crunch are an essential first step to the economy’s and the auto industry’s recovery, but further strong action is required.”

Concerning previous talks with Chrysler concerning a possible merger or acquisition, Wagoner was succinct: ""We've concluded at this particular time that we are better off to put 100% of our efforts on the liquidity side. We've set aside such actions as a near term priority."

Financial prognostication through the end of 2008 is not optimistic, with the company planning to barely scrape by with the funds necessary to continue operations. The first two quarters of 2009 are equally bleak, with GM predicting it will barely be able to remain in business barring an economic turnaround, massive asset sales or some other intervention. The company hasn't come out and stated that bankruptcy is imminent, but the implication lies heavily over the news.

“Volatility in the world’s financial markets, tightening of consumer and business credit and historically-low consumer confidence has created a very challenging environment ,” said Wagoner. “Given the current lack of credit availability we must take further difficult ‘self-help’ actions.” Those self-help actions will be taken above and beyond the restructuring program announced earlier this year, designed to generate an additional $15 billion in liquidity for the company.

Production cutbacks, development delays and reduced support of the dealer network will account for major portions of the new initiatives. Additionally, GM plans to reduce its salaried employee cost by about 30%, meaning major layoffs throughout North America will likely be necessary, though GM plans to encourage as many voluntary early retirements and 'mutual separation programs' as possible.

The final tally has GM posting a $2.8 billion loss before tax, a loss of $2.5 billion after tax, an adjusted operating cash flow loss of $6.9 billion, and a net earnings loss per share of $4.45. Adjusted losses for Q3 2008 amounted to $4.2 billion, however, compared to $1.6 billion in the same period of 2007.

و على جانب اخر

الخبر الثان

اعلنت جنرال موتورز و كريسلر اغلاق محداثات اندماجهما كليا لنقص السيوله و زياده الديون

و قيمه السهمهم التي هوت الى الحضيض

فقال نارديللي هذا الكلام الاتي

Chrysler LLC just released a statement from Bob Nardelli in which the CEO responds, in a way, to General Motors' third quarter earnings report. In the report, GM acknowledged that it had "recently explored the possibility of a strategic acquisition". While not citing Chrysler by name, we all know the strategic acquisition in question is the Auburn Hills-based automaker currently owned by private equity group Cerberus Capital Management. Nardelli responds by comically not confirming that his company was GM's target, reiterating for the umpteenth time that Chrysler doesn't talk about its business dealings with other companies because they often lead nowhere, like in this case we suppose. Of course, though his response confirms nothing, its mere existence confirms everything. All Nardelli does say is that Chrysler will continue to explore "multiple strategic alliances" that will aid its own turnaround effort. Carlos Ghosn, the prominent figurehead of Nissan/Renault whose companies were also on the short list of merger partners for Chrysler, should check his voicemail right about now.

Check out Nardelli's statement in his own words after the jump.

[Source: Chrysler, LLC]

[mtema99]

اخر الاخبار-2

الخبر الثالث و هو قرب موت فورد نهائيا

لا اقصد تفكيك المجموعه بل اقصد موت شركاتها ايضا

رغم كل ما تبزله هذه المجموعه من تحسينات جوهريه

و اصبحت من اكثر السيارات اعتماديه بجانب اليابانيه و الاوروبيه و لكنها الان اصبحت لا تستطيع المجاره

و اليكم التقرير التالي

Ford Reports $2.7 Billion Operating Loss in Q3, Burns $7.7 Billion in Cash, Announces Job Cuts

It can't get any worse for Ford Motor Company - or can it? The American automaker today announced a third quarter net loss of $129 million which is actually smaller than the same period a year ago when FoMoCo lost $390 million. However, the company also posted a third quarter pre-tax operating loss from continuing operations (excluding special items) of $2.7 billion, down from a $194 million profit a year ago.

What's even more worrying is the fact that FoMoCo burnt $7.7 billion of its $26.6 billion cash reserves during the July - September period, or about $2.6 billion a month from an average of $1 billion a month over the prior 6 months. If Ford continues to burn its reserves at the same rate, it will be out of cash in about 7 months or until April 2009...

Ford disclosed steps to improve cash by as much as $17 billion through 2010. The actions that the company is planning to do include including a slash in annual capital spending to between $5 billion and $5.5 billion and further reductions of salaried personnel-related costs by an additional 10 percent by the end of January 2009 through layoffs, attrition and other actions.

و لمواجهه هذا ستبزل فورد الاتي

The actions include:

Reducing North American salaried personnel-related costs by an additional 10 percent by the end of January 2009, through personnel reductions, attrition and other actions. The reductions are in addition to personnel-related cost actions already taken in Ford North America and under way in Ford of Europe, Ford Asia Pacific and Africa, and Volvo.
Further reduction of U.S. hourly employees by approximately 2,600 as a result of the most recent round of targeted buyouts – bringing Ford's total U.S. hourly reductions through buyouts in 2008 to approximately 7,000.
Eliminating merit pay increases for North America salaried employees in 2009.
Eliminating performance bonuses for global salaried employees, including the Annual Incentive Compensation Plan for the 2008 performance year.
Suspending matching funds for U.S. salaried employees participating in Ford's Savings and Stock Investment Plan, effective Jan. 1, 2009.
Reducing annual capital spending to between $5 billion and $5.5 billion – enabled by efficiencies in Ford's global product development system and reduced spending in declining product segments.
Reducing engineering, manufacturing, IT and advertising costs through greater global efficiencies.
Reducing inventories globally and achieving other working capital improvements.
Return of capital from Ford Credit to Ford Motor Company consistent with Ford Credit's plan for a smaller balance sheet and a focus on core Ford brands.
Continuing to develop incremental sources of Automotive funding, including divesting of non-core operations and assets, and implementing equity-for-debt swaps.

الخبر الرابع لهذا اليوم
عادي بقى

بجمله التخاريف اللي الواحد بيسمع عليها

بعد ان رفضت كريسلر رينو نيسان سابقا

و تم قطع الاتصالات المسؤله بالاندماج مع الجنرال في وقت قريب بسبب الخسائر الفادحه و الديون و عدم وجود سيوله

ظهر لكريسلر فارس اخر

و هو بطريقه ما اذا حدث سيكون اندماج اكثر عقليه من اندماجها مع الجنرال

و من الممكن بالفعل ان يفيدها (كريسلر) كثيرا و يفيد ايضا هيونداي يمكن اكثر

و اليكم التقرير التالي

On the same day that General Motors announced it would be discontinuing talks with Cerberus over a possible purchase of Chrysler, news hits by way of Reuters that a replacement suitor has sprung up. Wow, that didn't take long. The latest partner is none other than Hyundai, Korea's largest automaker. Not surprisingly, it's the Jeep brand that is again taking center stage according to these initial rumors. Everybody wants Jeep, it seems. If true, the possibility of breaking Chrysler's automotive operations into bits and pieces once again seems like a distinct possibility. What's more, after acknowledging that GM is abandoning talks of a "strategic acquisition," Chrysler's Bob Nardelli may now be back on the phone with Carlos Ghosn, head of the Nissan/Renault juggernaut, along with, presumably, anybody else who is willing to listen and has a pulse.

[Chicco]

تحياتي يا mtema باشا ....اسمحلي اقتبس تعليق كان قالوا صديقي الفاضل برو درايف باشا مرة "إنت من الناس القليلين اللي بيفكروني إن احنا في منتدى سيارات متخصص !!"
الخبر الزيادة بس إن الرئيس المنتخب اوباما وعد إنه ما يسيبش ثلاثي ديتريوت يقع حتى لو تدخلت الحكومة ماليا للانقاذ

[mtema99]

الله يكرمك

شكرا جزيلا

اما موضوع اوباما فعندك حق

بس تخيل لو احد المرضى مات قبل ما الدكتور يجي

حيث ان اوباما هيبقى موجود من 21 يناير

و مع الديون و الخسائر المتلاحقه اصبح من المأكد تقريبا

ان جنرال موتورز من الممكن ان تشهر افلاسها هي و فورد و بالطبع كريسلر في اي لحظه

اوباما وعد اه

بس مع المرضى اللي هيفضلوا عيشيين و لو حتى تحت اجهزه في غرفه عنايه مركزه

لكن اللي هيموتوا مش هيقدر يعملهم حاجه

و ساعتها هيبقى موتهم احسن من انه يتصرف عليهم مئات المليارات

و الغريب ان الكل متوقع موت الجنرال اولا